I might have my timeline wrong but I think it's very technically correct to claim her as British due to the Duchy of Bordeaux being under effectively English control at the time? That whole period seems to blend together.
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I might have my timeline wrong but I think it's very technically correct to claim her as British due to the Duchy of Bordeaux being under effectively English control at the time? That whole period seems to blend together.
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BimboBob
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Aquitaine was a vassal state at around the time she was born. Nominally to France. She was Queen of France before she became Queen of England. Plus most of her life is conjecture as there really isn't much written about her. A long stretch to call her British. Especially as the British were of Norman descent at this time.
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No they weren't, the ruling classes were of Norman descent and the ordinary rank and file and huge majority were English not even British. There are many cases of people becoming British either through marriage or nationalisation.
Everyone comes from somewhere and we can't discount the children of conquest from being English/British just because they had links to another country.
Hell, even Bonnie Prince Charlie was Italian.
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Elizabeth I is a stretch really. Like calling Thatcher a warrior queen over the Falklands. Elizabeth did the political stuff but she was no warrior. Not that in that farthingale.
BTW, it's well worth reading up on the Counter Armada of 1589, one of England's greatest military disasters. No one has heard of it, but it was on her watch.
BTW, it's well worth reading up on the Counter Armada of 1589, one of England's greatest military disasters. No one has heard of it, but it was on her watch.
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Yes, yes, yes...English under the rule of Normans. Still stands that Eleanor was born in a vassal state of France. So can't have been English. And the header of the OP says British...I just followed suit.
If we are going to be pedantic then Aethelflaed was a Mercian and therefore Anglo Saxon, Boudicca was Iceni and Cartimandua was a Celt meaning they technically were Britons. Britain, different from Britannia, as we know it wasn't used officially until 1474 so only Elizabeth from that list counts even if she wasn't a warrior queen herself. Same with Cartimandua who only really was a client Queen of the Romans and who turned over Caratacus to them. So if anything she was a traitor to the British.
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....and again , it descends into oneupmanship with regards to historical knowledge, and anti Thatcherism.
So, pretty much like every off topic thread
So, pretty much like every off topic thread