Grooming gang scandal

[KDB Fan]

Someone has to uncover a cover up, to be able to report on it, and it shows to me, that you hold the BBC are held in good regard that you’d expect it would be them, and not the Times. The BBC never claimed to have uncovered it!

- link to the grooming gangs story (second half of the pod) I mentioned before, by truly independent journalists (shock - they go after all sides!)

Also - on a national enquiry (as the podcast mentions) - we had one, at great expense and time consuming. The previous government didn’t implement ANY of the recommendations from it.

So, I’d say, and I hope you’d agree, that it’d be better to do the recommendations of the last one, rather than waste tax payers money on a new one?

I have very little respect for the BBC (especially in relation to crimes like this) and the only reason I had an expectation they'd uncover it before The Times is the fact they've got the budget of a small country and a lot of these cases were public knowledge since the early 2000s.

The national inquiry was along different lines and didn't focus solely on the cover-up of grooming gangs. To date, I'm not aware of a single police officer sanctioned or arrested for turning a blind eye despite some of the shocking evidence presented to them of the abuse. The inquiry ought to look into that, given the shortcomings of the IOPC investigation, along with persons within the CPS and local authorities (of any political persuasion) to see who ignored what and whether that amounts to misconduct in a public office. All the more so now that police officers are being accused of raping the same girls their forces failed to protect.

 

[stonerblue]

I don't read every news story of every news outlet no, but I've just done a quick search on Google and the first link is this:

Seven members of child sex abuse ring jailed after preying on children in drug den

All seven of the convicted criminals will serve a jail term from eight to 20 years

www.gbnews.com

As for the other article, I assumed it was related to a failure to investigate but it just gets even more depraved and even more of a compelling reason for a national inquiry.

There's a reason its the first link..

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

There's a reason its the first link..

Yep.

Not the first link on my results for "Glasgow grooming gang"

I've found a new job that he could do.

 

[BridgyDids]

Yep.

Not the first link on my results for "Glasgow grooming gang"

I've found a new job that he could do.

I see Monkey Dust, I press like

 

[KDB Fan]

There's a reason its the first link..

Don't understand your point, what reason is that?

 

[stonerblue]

Don't understand your point, what reason is that?

Algorithms

 

[KDB Fan]

Algorithms

Err ok. Not sure what clever point you're trying to make but the reason it's the first link is because I put 'GB News' in the search term seen as though I was trying to find a specific article from them. It's not rocket science.

 

[stonerblue]

Err ok. Not sure what clever point you're trying to make but the reason it's the first link is because I put 'GB News' in the search term seen as though I was trying to find a specific article from them. It's not rocket science.

That's not what you told us though is it.

 

[hilts]

That's not what you told us though is it.

In fairness he was asked if he could see a GB news article on the Glasgow grooming gangs, naturally you would use GB news in the search.

If a couple of you don't have the balls to come out and state what you meant by well it would come out first for you then it's pretty sad not to explain.

If we are playing the pedant game then the poster didn't say just search Glasgow grooming gangs without specifics so maybe they should explain themselves better.

If people are gonna slyly claim someone has GB News come up all the time because they are on that site a lot, man up and say it otherwise it means someone is acting like a bit of a ****.

There I said it, no implications were needed.

 

[hilts]

Err ok. Not sure what clever point you're trying to make but the reason it's the first link is because I put 'GB News' in the search term seen as though I was trying to find a specific article from them. It's not rocket science.

They're basically saying you're racist who frequents GB News a lot.

I personally would argue the points rather than the poster because I don't know posters well enough to make that presumption, but there you go that's bluemoon for you.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

In fairness he was asked if he could see a GB news article on the Glasgow grooming gangs, naturally you would use GB news in the search.

If a couple of you don't have the balls to come out and state what you meant by well it would come out first for you then it's pretty sad not to explain.

If we are playing the pedant game then the poster didn't say just search Glasgow grooming gangs without specifics so maybe they should explain themselves better.

If people are gonna slyly claim someone has GB News come up all the time because they are on that site a lot, man up and say it otherwise it means someone is acting like a bit of a ****.

There I said it, no implications were needed.

Is it sly or just giving him more credit than he deserves in assuming he can read between the lines and has some critical thinking skills?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Is it sly or just giving him more credit than he deserves in assuming he can read between the lines and has some critical thinking skills?

Interesting to note the users on here calling what the press call the Glasgow child sex abuse ring a grooming gang.

Wonder why the press don’t call them that?

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Grooming, child exploitation, sexual abuse is, and never should be anything to do with politics.

Anyone who uses it for politics just one big fuckoff.... you CERTAINLY don't give a shit about the abuse. Just fuckoff, you're a bad as the abusers.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Interesting to note the users on here calling what the press call the Glasgow child sex abuse ring a grooming gang.

Wonder why the press don’t call them that?

Probably because the abuse included young children not adolescents. No grooming took place.

The children were treated as mere toys for these depraved people to abuse.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Probably because the abuse included young children not adolescents. No grooming took place.

The children were treated as mere toys for these depraved people to abuse.

I look forward to you posting that after the Rochdale trial finishes and seeing what reaction it gets.

 

[hilts]

Is it sly or just giving him more credit than he deserves in assuming he can read between the lines and has some critical thinking skills?

I'm not sure reading between the lines is a good argument to make in this circumstance, glass houses and all that.

The implications here on GB News is GB news is racist, they go on about Rochdale because the perps were brown folk, the Glasgow one they don't seem that bothered about because they were white so it doesn't fit their narrative.

A poster looks for a GB News article and it comes up first and then the innuendos start.

Personally I don't frequent anything relating to GB news nor do I know the posters views so I wouldn't have an opinion on either only what is put on here.

Either play a straight bat or if you want to make accusations just come out with it, it's a cunts trick not to.

It's rather depressing though that kids get raped and posters are more concerned with the narrative behind the reporting of the event.

Imho too many threads get diverted into the media angle.

There must be a GB news thread somewhere that the Tory wets and left can use to promote GB news views:-)

 

[hilts]

Grooming, child exploitation, sexual abuse is, and never should be anything to do with politics.

Anyone who uses it for politics just one big fuckoff.... you CERTAINLY don't give a shit about the abuse. Just fuckoff, you're a bad as the abusers.

Agree fella, they even get worked up if they call it a ring or a gang. Sad fuckers.

It would be nice if everyone could just put their efforts into kids not having their lives destroyed in the worst possible way.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I'm not sure reading between the lines is a good argument to make in this circumstance, glass houses and all that.

The implications here on GB News is GB news is racist, they go on about Rochdale because the perps were brown folk, the Glasgow one they don't seem that bothered about because they were white so it doesn't fit their narrative.

A poster looks for a GB News article and it comes up first and then the innuendos start.

Personally I don't frequent anything relating to GB news nor do I know the posters views so I wouldn't have an opinion on either only what is put on here.

Either play a straight bat or if you want to make accusations just come out with it, it's a cunts trick not to.

It's rather depressing though thst kids get raped and posters are more concerned with the narrative behind the reporting of the event.

Imho too many threads get diverted into the media angle.

There must be a GB news thread somewhere that the Tory wets and left can use to promote their views:-)

Isn't there an irony of you complaining about this reference to GB News but not the poster's non factual claims about the BBC covering up grooming gangs?

 

[hilts]

Isn't there an irony of you complaining about this reference to GB News but not the poster's non factual claims about the BBC covering up grooming gangs?

Not really I haven't read that far back, arguing about the motives of the Beeb and GB news is as boring as it is long standing on here. A lot of threads are overly long and repetitive as you know. I came in when someone said that GB news basically didn't give a fuck because articles weren't easily found, the poster then searched using GB News(shocking eh). He/she was then called a racist nudge nudge wink wink.

Anyhow I think we have covered all we can on the subject.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I look forward to you posting that after the Rochdale trial finishes and seeing what reaction it gets.

Grooming is a behaviour designed to establish a bond between victim and perpetrator or perpetrator and families of victims.

It may have taken place but not been the focus of the charges.

It seems to have not taken place in Glasgow because of the age of the children. There was one child still in nappies.

It's not been reported but it seems likely some of those children are the children of one or more of the abusers.

The current Rochdale trial involves girls aged from 13.