Grooming gang scandal

BrianW said:
Lots of people are, at a minimum, implying it.

AFAIC they should ALL be boiled for glue. But I do stress, ALL of them.

There have been white grooming gangs. E.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-65189785

The strange thing is, I don't see people claiming ALL whites are the the same, or that ALL whites should be deported. Why is that?
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I haven’t seen any on this thread, maybe there are though.

Of course they should all be ‘boiled’ and locked up. However I will say this report only came out the other day and focuses on Pakistani grooming gangs. Is it a surprise that’s what the focus is currently on?
 
Damocles said:
So can I suggest that we're all now in huge agreement that a tax raise ringfenced directly for children's social services should come in?

Because you're all so protective of these kids, you'll give an extra few quid a month to fund the people who detect and stop these abuses right?
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They are already in place. They just need to do their jobs.
 
Damocles said:
So can I suggest that we're all now in huge agreement that a tax raise ringfenced directly for children's social services should come in?

Because you're all so protective of these kids, you'll give an extra few quid a month to fund the people who detect and stop these abuses right?
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We can direct as much additional funding to the issue as we want, funded by a ring fenced tax rise or general taxation.

But if the authorities continue to turn a blind eye to perpetrators from certain ethnicities, and those particular ethnicities are responsible for the majority of offences, then it’s not going to make much difference is it?

The authorities could have done a much, much better job at protecting these children, but they chose not to. Some people seem to have a problem understanding that.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
They are already in place. They just need to do their jobs.
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The average children's social worker that deals with "complex cases" has a caseload that is more than double their recommended limit.

There are 7,500 current vacancies for case holding social workers in the children's sector in a total workforce of 32,000. This is probably because they have one of the highest turnovers of any industry. It turns out dealing with kids who are battered, raped and often tortured every day as a 9 to 5 job where you're massively overburdened, have almost zero budget and no resources takes a toll on mental health. It's a meme within that industry that you're not "time-served" until you've had at least one total mental health breakdown that results in long term absence and treatment by professionals. That's their job. They have to sit in front of men raping their daughters and be polite and professional. Those coppers who check paedos hard drives to catalogue have a strict rotation because it is fully understood that exposure to that material can only be tolerated by the normal human brain for so long. Social workers don't. They get 60 hours a week instead for a salary of 38. They also have to essentially be lawyers and need to know things like the Care Act and statutory guidance backwards and forwards including all the legalese and if they miss something or make a mistake then, God forbid, a kid will die and everybody fucking hates them and the press absolutely hound them to ensure they're ran out of the industry. Oh and they also get accused of being child snatchers, racists, trouble causers, and every other derogatory term.

They do this for a wage equivalent to a mid tier McDonalds worker.

They do the job of three people. They need money and resources. If people want to help then stop pointing fingers at ethnic groups and talking about insane and revealing fantasies about torturing paedophiles and use all that campaigning energy to get one of the most overwhelmed and underfunded parts of the public sector more resources so they can actually have the time and ability to do the job that they do because nobody else wants to, which is preventing the rape and abuse of children. That's what their "Zoom conferences" are about at 9am on a Monday morning. Children getting actively raped or beaten or neglected. I don't know what your morning looks like but that's not something I could handle. But they do. And they get shit on for it.
 
Bury Council has to import social workers from Africa because the wages paid are not sufficient to attract natives.

As so often in this country, we will the ends, but not the means. We want government (and policing) on the cheap. There is no cheap way to run an 'advanced' country properly.

If you give troops six bullets each, don't be surprised when they are overrun by the enemy.
 
Damocles said:
The average children's social worker that deals with "complex cases" has a caseload that is more than double their recommended limit.

There are 7,500 current vacancies for case holding social workers in the children's sector in a total workforce of 32,000. This is probably because they have one of the highest turnovers of any industry. It turns out dealing with kids who are battered, raped and often tortured every day as a 9 to 5 job where you're massively overburdened, have almost zero budget and no resources takes a toll on mental health. They also have to essentially be lawyers and need to know things like the Care Act and statutory guidance backwards and forwards including all the legalese and if they miss something or make a mistake then, God forbid, a kid will die and everybody fucking hates them and the press absolutely hound them to ensure they're ran out of the industry. Oh and they also get accused of being child snatchers, racists, trouble causers, and every other derogatory term.

They do this for a wage equivalent to a mid tier McDonalds worker.

They do the job of three people. They need money and resources. If people want to help then stop pointing fingers at ethnic groups and talking about insane and revealing fantasies about torturing paedophiles and use all that campaigning energy to get one of the most overwhelmed and underfunded parts of the public sector more resources so they can actually have the time and ability to do the job that they do because nobody else wants to, which is preventing the rape and abuse of children. That's what their "Zoom conferences" are about at 9am on a Monday morning. Children getting actively raped or beaten or neglected. I don't know what your morning looks like but that's not something I could handle. But they do. And they get shit on for it.
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Outstanding post
 
Damocles said:
The average children's social worker that deals with "complex cases" has a caseload that is more than double their recommended limit.

There are 7,500 current vacancies for case holding social workers in the children's sector in a total workforce of 32,000. This is probably because they have one of the highest turnovers of any industry. It turns out dealing with kids who are battered, raped and often tortured every day as a 9 to 5 job where you're massively overburdened, have almost zero budget and no resources takes a toll on mental health. It's a meme within that industry that you're not "time-served" until you've had at least one total mental health breakdown that results in long term absence and treatment by professionals. That's their job. They have to sit in front of men raping their daughters and be polite and professional. Those coppers who check paedos hard drives to catalogue have a strict rotation because it is fully understood that exposure to that material can only be tolerated by the normal human brain for so long. Social workers don't. They get 60 hours a week instead for a salary of 38. They also have to essentially be lawyers and need to know things like the Care Act and statutory guidance backwards and forwards including all the legalese and if they miss something or make a mistake then, God forbid, a kid will die and everybody fucking hates them and the press absolutely hound them to ensure they're ran out of the industry. Oh and they also get accused of being child snatchers, racists, trouble causers, and every other derogatory term.

They do this for a wage equivalent to a mid tier McDonalds worker.

They do the job of three people. They need money and resources. If people want to help then stop pointing fingers at ethnic groups and talking about insane and revealing fantasies about torturing paedophiles and use all that campaigning energy to get one of the most overwhelmed and underfunded parts of the public sector more resources so they can actually have the time and ability to do the job that they do because nobody else wants to, which is preventing the rape and abuse of children. That's what their "Zoom conferences" are about at 9am on a Monday morning. Children getting actively raped or beaten or neglected. I don't know what your morning looks like but that's not something I could handle. But they do. And they get shit on for it.
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OK fair point point, I meant the ones that were already in their positions and turned a blind eye to what was going on.
 
Damocles said:
I'll let the kids know mate
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What that the politicians are irresponsible and corrupt and don't really care unless there are votes in it? Doubt they'd be too interested to be honest. You'll be better off talking to the front line troops like social workers - the place where additional money really should be being targeted.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Ok I'll tell my GP you think he is probably a pedo
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If your GP is Manchester-based, he is, statistically, more likely to come from the same ethnic background that has a higher proportion of child rapists.

To quote GMP: GMP confirmed it investigated 35 'group-based child sexual exploitation operations' and identified 243 suspects in the three years up to May this year. The biggest group (131) were Asian males well ahead of the number of white male suspects (81) while most of the alleged 317 victims were white females (250), says the report.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Oh and another thought ...... did you report any of these men to the authorities because of your suspicions or even knowledge of their actions?
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Yes. I was actively involved in a deeply disturbing case where a FOUR year old girl was raped by a gang of Pakistani taxi drivers. The girl complained of itching in her vaginal area. Subsequent swabs showed she had vaginal , anal and oral gonorrhoea. She was passed around from man to man like a piece of meat. The men targeted her through her crack addicted mum who took cash from the men to pay for her addiction. She handed over her daughter (wittingly or unwittingly- it was never proven)to be “looked after”.
Thankfully, that girl is now flourishing as a fit and healthy ten year old after being placed with paternal grandma.

In my previous work I’ve helped several women to fuck off Pakistani men who feel they have the right to pester and mither young white womenfolk. Not reported to the police as I don’t think general mithering is currently considered law-breaking.

Thankfully, at my local gym, where Pakistani men had become an issue (again, approaching young female workers and pestering/ talking sexually) management came down like the proverbial ton of bricks and memberships were revoked instantly. Great to see. Good riddance to the cunts.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
What that the politicians are irresponsible and corrupt and don't really care unless there are votes in it? Doubt they'd be too interested to be honest. You'll be better off talking to the front line troops like social workers - the place where additional money really should be being targeted.
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I think the same about the boats on the Channel.

Do people want to solve the problem or not? Because the solution is more money for the Coast Guard. We have a vaguely functional country that almost two decades of austerity has destroyed and now real people are seeing the results, conveniently after all the cowards who voted for it have left Government.

What are we trying to achieve? I think the boat crossings are bad so I think we should give money to the Coast Guard who are trained and equipped to deal with boat crossings. I think the grooming gangs are bad so I think we should give money to the people who identify and deal with child sexual abuse. I don't know what other people want or are trying to achieve. We have problems and we have departments that solve those problems. So if these are now a priority then fund them correctly. This isn't some high IQ nuanced solution I know, but it will actually work, if people actually wanted to solve the problem.
 
johnnytapia said:
If your GP is Manchester-based, he is, statistically, more likely to come from the same ethnic background that has a higher proportion of child rapists.

To quote GMP: GMP confirmed it investigated 35 'group-based child sexual exploitation operations' and identified 243 suspects in the three years up to May this year. The biggest group (131) were Asian males well ahead of the number of white male suspects (81) while most of the alleged 317 victims were white females (250), says the report.
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Sorry johnny but I have to pull you here. This is a terrible way to express the statistics.

Raw numbers do not tell a story. There has to be a per capita element to truly express raw statistics. Give percentages of offenders based on population statistics.
 
Damocles said:
I think the same about the boats on the Channel.

Do people want to solve the problem or not? Because the solution is more money for the Coast Guard. We have a vaguely functional country that almost two decades of austerity has destroyed and now real people are seeing the results, conveniently after all the cowards who voted for it have left Government.

What are we trying to achieve? I think the boat crossings are bad so I think we should give money to the Coast Guard who are trained and equipped to deal with boat crossings. I think the grooming gangs are bad so I think we should give money to the people who identify and deal with child sexual abuse. I don't know what other people want or are trying to achieve. We have problems and we have departments that solve those problems. So if these are now a priority then fund them correctly. This isn't some high IQ nuanced solution I know, but it will actually work, if people actually wanted to solve the problem.
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You think the country has been destroyed? This indicates to me that you havent really travelled much. Sure we have our issues but there are many worse countries than the UK.
 
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