Guardiola fined £20,000 for wearing yellow ribbon (p140)

[mcfcphil]

Having watched the Spanish police’s brutal attacks on voters, leaving many them seriously injured, I’d happily wear a yellow ribbon for that reason alone.

 

[SWP's back]

thinking about it today,he is paid by us to do a job that includes being on the touchline for games,how far does this go when it's a conflict of interest,everyone knows he is the jailed catalans highest profile supporter and that won't change,when does he put his job first? i'm still up for fans wearing as much yellow tomorrow as possible and for the rest of the season in his place if needed,just musing,whatever sticks it to the fa is fine by me but i support city firstly

I support Pep whatever, as will his bosses.

It’s the man that we hired and Txiki knows exactly what sort of person he is.

 

[franksinatra]

Yes. Of course it is.

Were the English polled on whether the Scots could vote? Did the English get a vote in the actual referendum?

Self determination is a key tenet of democracy. Ask the Falkland Islanders.

Sorry SWP my point was not clear, I was not expressing a political opinion but playing devils advocate on how the other side of the argument could view the same symbolic act and therefore why sport adopts a blanket ban as it would have to arbitrate on what is a justifiable argument/legitimate protest and by virtue of adopting that stance could be considered expressing or supporting such a viewpoint.

Just as an example if english players wore political symbols on the Uks independence on europe, scots players on independence and the fa allowed it, would it then be considered as equally acceptable if Argentinian or Spanish players commented on Falklands or Gibraltar or a step further players commentated on the Palestine issue?

I appreciate that is a step further than the yellow ribbon but sports by the way of a blanket ban try not to become involved in making these moral judgements and setting the parameters/boundaries of what is acceptable.

Of course the flip side is Peps right to express his beliefs and opinions abd his rights to freedom of expression. Its a very complex issue.

 

[bobmcfc]

thinking about it today,he is paid by us to do a job that includes being on the touchline for games,how far does this go when it's a conflict of interest,everyone knows he is the jailed catalans highest profile supporter and that won't change,when does he put his job first? i'm still up for fans wearing as much yellow tomorrow as possible and for the rest of the season in his place if needed,just musing,whatever sticks it to the fa is fine by me but i support city firstly

We can either back him or sack him Karen. I feel we have to back him because he’s being unfairly singled out. It’s no surprise mourinho called him out before the derby, he’s probably been on to the FA weekly about it On the quiet and to and David Gill, who conveniently still sits on the board of directors and man united.

If the fans show solidarity and make their voices heard at games the FA will crawl back under their rock

 

[SWP's back]

Sorry SWP my point was not clear, I was not expressing a political opinion but playing devils advocate on how the other side of the argument could view the same symbolic act and therefore why sport adopts a blanket ban as it would have to arbitrate on what is a justifiable argument/legitimate protest and by virtue of adopting that stance could be considered expressing or supporting such a viewpoint.

Just as an example if english players wore political symbols on the Uks independence on europe, scots players on independence and the fa allowed it, would it then be considered as equally acceptable if Argentinian or Spanish players commented on Falklands or Gibraltar or a step further players commentated on the Palestine issue?

I appreciate that is a step further than the yellow ribbon but sports by the way of a blanket ban try not to become involved in making these moral judgements and setting the parameters/boundaries of what is acceptable.

Of course the flip side is Peps right to express his beliefs and opinions abd his rights to freedom of expression. Its a very complex issue.

It is mate. I just feel the club will argue it’s not a political act but a show of solidarity with two of his friends who are in jail.

 

[urban genie]

Well at least the soccer sat lot have called the FA timing and decission to charge him ridiculous and unecessary

 

[kaz7]

We can either back him or sack him Karen. I feel we have to back him because he’s being unfairly singled out. It’s no surprise mourinho called him out before the derby, he’s probably been on to the FA weekly about it On the quiet and to and David Gill, who conveniently still sits on the board of directors and man united.

If the fans show solidarity and make their voices heard at games the FA will crawl back under their rock

Oh yeah we would never sack him rightly so and the club and everyone will support him,i was just musing over if there will be some sort of tipping point,i would never not back him on this,you match goers need to get the yellow out as well,i despise the fa,leg breakers ok but this is not

 

[geoff clipp]

Would it not be better to collect for the With Catalonia group that are raising money to support the political prisoners maybe?

I think the fact they're not only serves to prove that they're not actually that arsed about the cause at all.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

The issue with the FA as we will come a see in the next few weeks weeks is they operate in a strict “do as we say not as we do” way.

****s.

 

[Brendan110_0]

It's a pretty simple request IMO. Don't SHOW it on touchline during game. Before match interviews OK to wear it, after match interviews OK to wear it. Still, the FA are being dicks but don't stoop to their boot licking level.