Guardiola fined £20,000 for wearing yellow ribbon (p140)

But there is no FA law in place on this. Guardiola is not contravening any law that I can see.

The FA agreed Uefa’s policy change after the poppy debacle of only banning emblems if they were offensive and stated that this would be their position too.
 
Damocles said:
My view on this is actually super simple.

The FA decide the rules.

That's it really, it's their competition and they get to decide what you can and can't do if you participate in it. If they say no yellow ribbon then no yellow ribbon. Pep can wear a yellow ribbon for 22 and a half hours a day if he really feels like he has to (and I admire and encourage him to do so). But during this time, he is paid and expected to be managing a Premier League team under the jurisdiction and rules of the FA.

People can argue that the rule is stupid, and I agree somewhat, but it IS a rule and he should respect that. Why stand in his technical area? Why not play 15 players in a match? Why not manage bollock naked? Why respect SOME rules but not other rules?

This isn't a freedom of speech issue to me because the FA is not the Government. They run an invitational league that is owned by the Premier League and can exclude people for any, many, or no reason. If they wanted to dock City 50 points then they could an nobody could really stop them if it was within the rules.

If you want to get rules changed then you work within the system to try and change things. That's how the whole of civilisation works, generally.
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Yet the FA got fined by FIFA in 2016 for wearing poppies on shirts as it was seen as a political symbol, a bit hypocritical from the FA don't you think?
 
bellsouth said:
Am I being dumb here, if its only an FA rule, then it only applies to FA Cup games so what's the bother now? Or do FA rules supersede EFL and Premier League rules for their respective competitions?
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Do you mean the FA Premier League and the FA Football League Cup?
 
Andy Conway said:
But there is no FA law in place on this. Guardiola is not contravening any law that I can see.
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FA Kit & Advertising Regulations, paragraph A4 states: 4. The appearance on, or incorporation in, any item of clothing (including football boots) of any distasteful, threatening, abusive, indecent, insulting, discriminatory or otherwise ethically or morally offensive message, or any political message, is prohibited. The advertising of tobacco products is prohibited.

That's the regulation they are presumably bringing the charge under.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I assume everyone backing Pep bringing attention to people jailed for their political beliefs feels the same sympathy for those similarly jailed, tortured and held without access to lawyers & their families in the UAE?

Just checking.
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I do yeah.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
FA Kit & Advertising Regulations, paragraph A4 states: 4. The appearance on, or incorporation in, any item of clothing (including football boots) of any distasteful, threatening, abusive, indecent, insulting, discriminatory or otherwise ethically or morally offensive message, or any political message, is prohibited. The advertising of tobacco products is prohibited.

That's the regulation they are presumably bringing the charge under.
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That's the law I thought they'd changed so they could have their poppies.
 
Damocles said:
My view on this is actually super simple.

The FA decide the rules.

That's it really, it's their competition and they get to decide what you can and can't do if you participate in it. If they say no yellow ribbon then no yellow ribbon. Pep can wear a yellow ribbon for 22 and a half hours a day if he really feels like he has to (and I admire and encourage him to do so). But during this time, he is paid and expected to be managing a Premier League team under the jurisdiction and rules of the FA.

People can argue that the rule is stupid, and I agree somewhat, but it IS a rule and he should respect that. Why stand in his technical area? Why not play 15 players in a match? Why not manage bollock naked? Why respect SOME rules but not other rules?

This isn't a freedom of speech issue to me because the FA is not the Government. They run an invitational league that is owned by the Premier League and can exclude people for any, many, or no reason. If they wanted to dock City 50 points then they could an nobody could really stop them if it was within the rules.

If you want to get rules changed then you work within the system to try and change things. That's how the whole of civilisation works, generally.
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Pretty much agree with all of this. He's employed by the club first and foremost
 
Any ideas on what happens next?

Papers suggested should Pep wear it at the Wembley final, he faces a touchline ban ... so is that expected soon? Arsenal away and Chelsea home next ...

Or given that Pep has openly stated that he’d continue to defy FA, is this one going to get lawyers involved and going to an arbitrator?

I mean if they give him a game or a couple of games touchline ban, he’d go serve that, and then on his return again have the yellow ribbon (which he has already said he will) so what does the FA do then?
 
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