Guardiola fined £20,000 for wearing yellow ribbon (p140)

[Bill Walker]

I very much enjoy the ongoing discussion but this thread seems to be marching rather quickly to the realm of the Off Topic forum.

where the intelligentsia hang out

 

[The Colonel]

Pathetic Tory illusion based upon a lie with no funding to match it....so London’s latest rail project keeps its massive funding whilst one of the first casualties was the electrification of the main trans Pennines link... I just wish I could summon up an iota of surprise....

Remember Cameron’s “big society”?

 

[SebastianBlue]

where the intelligentsia hang out

As well as the drunkards, trolls, and those only marginally interested in footballing matters. ;-)

 

[Bill Walker]

As well as the drunkards, trolls, and those only marginally interested in footballing matters. ;-)

you forgot the Australians who keep this place running while your all snoring..

 

[mcb1207]

Not comparing the issues, just the principle.

JFT96 was a campaign against a belief of systemic wrong doing. A push for what they believed (rightly imo) to be justice.

My understanding is that Pep is campaigning for justice as a consequence of systemic wrong doing.

JFT96 was a non political campaign in the eyes of the FA even though it was against government bodies.

I struggle to see how the FA could distinguish the two....purely from a political / non political argument

 

[BlueHammer85]

Would be nice if anything political related was kept out of football, it just stirs too much unwanted debate away from the game which is our escape away from politics and injustices that go on around the world.Just my opinion.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Not comparing the issues, just the principle.

JFT96 was a campaign against a belief of systemic wrong doing. A push for what they believed (rightly imo) to be justice.

My understanding is that Pep is campaigning for justice as a consequence of systemic wrong doing.

JFT96 was a non political campaign in the eyes of the FA even though it was against government bodies.

I struggle to see how the FA could distinguish the two....purely from a political / non political argument

Good point.

Knowing the FA, I suspect there is some other motive here. Whether they have been put under pressure by the Spanish FA and need a favour off them or something, I'm sure there's more than meets the eye.

The rainbow laces campaign is another campaign that the FA support, that they would argue is non-political.

Let me just say, I completely support the rainbow laces campaign and I'm sure most sensible minded people do. But I am sure there are people on the fringes who because of their extreme political / religious beliefs, don't support the campaign.

It's a similar situation with Pep's yellow ribbon for me. Pep has said he is wearing it in a peaceful, respectful way supporting the right to free speech and self-determination. Similar to LGBT rights, I wouldn't really call those political beliefs, they're just the beliefs of all sensible minded people.

The FA are on very tricky ground if they start trying to determine what counts as a political view and what doesn't. The poppy, rainbow laces and yellow ribbon all fall in to the same category for me. They are peaceful, humanistic symbols which aren't intended to be offensive to anyone. I'm supportive of them all being promoted in football.

But if the FA try to ban the yellow ribbon, they're in grave danger of opening a can of worms for themselves, it looks very hypocritical.

 

[SebastianBlue]

you forgot the Australians who keep this place running while your all snoring..

I was including the blues down under in the intelligentsia. And I have a sleep disorder, so I’m often lurking when you fine gents are greasing the gears. I do appreciate your work!

 

[Sir peace frog]

stick to the rules some say on here

so rules are to be stuck to,what if those rules change to suit the powers that be ?
anyone remember ffp rules ?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I very much enjoy the ongoing discussion but this thread seems to be marching rather quickly to the realm of the Off Topic forum.

Well let's bring it back. Rob Harris of Associated Press is a journalist I've got a lot of time for and he's published an article which I think makes a very salient point.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...85d234-1b26-11e8-98f5-ceecfa8741b6_story.html

I and others have said that the owners are happy to use City as a sort of lightning conductor to deflect attention away from criticism of the UAE. Of course there will be some but on the whole they have been successful in creating a division between the club and the country. That helps to explain why they're seemingly tolerant of almost defamatory media articles about City yet clamp downget the lawyers involved when Abu Dhabi or the Sheikh is brought in. Harris makes the point that Pep, by bringing attention to the situation in Catalunya, is bringing the spotlight onto Abu Dhabi. That probably wasn't his intention but the boys in the Gulf aren't going to be happy if that's happening. I suspect he'll be quietly but firmly told by Khaldoon that he's made his point and is free to pursue his political beliefs in every other way but he must stop using the public platform afforded by City to pick fights.