half time pitch forkers

[SWPISHOME]

I thought it was bad sportsmanship from Burnley, They made no effort what so ever to try and get rid of some of the puddles. Brian Laws was also standing beside the 4th official for the majority of the second half trying to get it called off.

Burnley are really lucky the way the pitch was in the second half because I definetly think we would of went into double figures yesterday!

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

is there no way that we can get the FA to discipline them for unsporting conduct?

i don't like cheating of any sort.

 

[SWPISHOME]

is there no way that we can get the FA to discipline them for unsporting conduct?

i don't like cheating of any sort.

I think if the game had of been called off then we definetly could of put in a complaint to the FA for what Burnley did yesterday.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

is there no way that we can get the FA to discipline them for unsporting conduct?

i don't like cheating of any sort.

I think if the game had of been called off then we definetly could of put in a complaint to the FA for what Burnley did yesterday.

they still tried it, next time they might succeed.

Nip it in the bud I say.

 

[hilly81]

In fairness to Burnley, the pitch first half was fairly good, nothing compaired to sunderlands a few weeks back, aweful. That was a very very heavy downpour, any premiership ground would have struggled with that amount of rainfall in such a short amount of time. I actually dont even blame Brian Laws attempting to get the game called off, i would have excpected city to do the same thing given the circumstances.

surely a team reaching the prem the pitch should be of that standard.if not they should not be allowed in. had that been called off it would have lifted spurs immensly.

Said exactly the same at the time. Every premier league club should have a requirement to have a pitch with undersoil heating and sufficient drainage for bad weather conditions. Player purchases should be put on the back burner until this has been fulfilled, anyway in this day and age why cant stadiums have some sort of temporary roof in place for this sort of situation, i mean its not like rain only comes once in a while is it ? For me every new bulid stadium should have a roof fitted anyway i think most do now dont they ?

 

[Barry Conlons wig]

In fairness to Burnley, the pitch first half was fairly good, nothing compaired to sunderlands a few weeks back, aweful. That was a very very heavy downpour, any premiership ground would have struggled with that amount of rainfall in such a short amount of time. I actually dont even blame Brian Laws attempting to get the game called off, i would have excpected city to do the same thing given the circumstances.

I don't neither, however I would expect them to do everything in their power to ensure that the forkers did there job, especially under the scrutiny of the cameras.

-- Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:25 pm --

Playing on pitches like that were the norm in the 70's..

yes agree, but you didnt have the thought that it would be called off at any time, hanging over you<br /><br />-- Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:28 pm --<br /><br />

is there no way that we can get the FA to discipline them for unsporting conduct?

i don't like cheating of any sort.

lets face it, their punishment is coming in a number of weeks, it would just be rubbing salt into an open wound and make us look like sore los..... wait a min ;-)

 

[Ducado]

They get millions of pounds for being in the Prem, some proper pitch drainage is all that is required, heavy rain is not rare in the North West, regardless of the result they should be fined, to put of other teams trying the same tactics.

 

[Neil McNab]

didnt go to the match today and havnt even watched it yet as was travelling back from heathrow, sky + it so watchin later.

However spoke to my bro who watched it and he said that what he saw they didnt even have many if any out pitchforking the pitch.

Can anyone at the match confirm this... smells of bad sportsmanship if they didnt, trying to get the game abandoned!

They had no penatration all day!

 

[Anonymous]

The pitch wasn't the only bit of the ground with no proper drainage....one set of bogs straight out of "Kes" for an entire stand,with a late kick-off...

 

[Paladin]

One has already said it - credit to Alan Wiley for not allowing Burnley to have that game abandoned. There was some decent football played in the second half, and it would have been unjust to stop the game. I think he recognised this. Had it been 0-0 at half time, then his decision might have been different.

Further credit to him and the players for finishing the game with no cautions and no dismissals. I think he handled the game very well.

 

[asmwest]

We battered them, Brian Laws is big enough to admit it and praise the blues, fair play to the bloke.

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[cfn1963]

I was in with Burnley fans (and therefore had a stonking view of 5 first half goals). The banter around me was great - lots of chanting for the game to be abandoned and at half time there were calls for the sprinklers to be turned on.

I was worried for a while - it would have been just another typical city moment when we lost the replayed game.

 

[not my fault!]

I noticed the lack of helping any standing water drain from the pitch at half time and even said to my old man that I thought it may get called off. I kept clock watching till it hit 60mins then I was able to relax again knowing that if it had been called off the result would stand. Do think the pitch second half killed the game off and had it not rained we could have seen a huge goal tally for our boys, but think Burnley knew this!

 

[Roger Ringpiece]

I kept clock watching till it hit 60mins then I was able to relax again knowing that if it had been called off the result would stand.

Read a few people quoting 60, 70 minutes etc and the result stands-COMPLETELY WRONG.

Section E, Rules 13 and 14 of this seasons Premier League handbook:

Postponement of League Matches
13. A League Match shall not be postponed or abandoned except:

RULES: SECTION E
13.1 when on the date fixed for it to be played either the Home Club or the Visiting Club is
competing in a competition permitted by Rules E.10.1, E.10.2, and E.10.3; or
13.2 with the approval of or on the instructions of the officiating referee; or
13.3 by order of the police or other authority exercising its statutory powers to that effect; or
13.4 on the instructions of or with the prior written consent of the Board.

14. Upon a League Match being postponed or abandoned in accordance with Rules E.13.1, E.13.2
or E.13.3, the Home Club shall forthwith inform the Secretary, and the Board will thereupon
exercise its power under Rule E.6 and fix a date upon which the League Match in question shall
be played.

 

[cyberblue]

didnt go to the match today and havnt even watched it yet as was travelling back from heathrow, sky + it so watchin later.

However spoke to my bro who watched it and he said that what he saw they didnt even have many if any out pitchforking the pitch.

Can anyone at the match confirm this... smells of bad sportsmanship if they didnt, trying to get the game abandoned!

It would have took an army with pitch forks to do any good

 

[not my fault!]

I kept clock watching till it hit 60mins then I was able to relax again knowing that if it had been called off the result would stand.

Read a few people quoting 60, 70 minutes etc and the result stands-COMPLETELY WRONG.

Section E, Rules 13 and 14 of this seasons Premier League handbook:

Postponement of League Matches
13. A League Match shall not be postponed or abandoned except:

RULES: SECTION E
13.1 when on the date fixed for it to be played either the Home Club or the Visiting Club is
competing in a competition permitted by Rules E.10.1, E.10.2, and E.10.3; or
13.2 with the approval of or on the instructions of the officiating referee; or
13.3 by order of the police or other authority exercising its statutory powers to that effect; or
13.4 on the instructions of or with the prior written consent of the Board.

14. Upon a League Match being postponed or abandoned in accordance with Rules E.13.1, E.13.2
or E.13.3, the Home Club shall forthwith inform the Secretary, and the Board will thereupon
exercise its power under Rule E.6 and fix a date upon which the League Match in question shall
be played.

Ermmmm I may be reading it wrong but where does that prove what I said is wrong? That rule is with regards to a match being postponed or called off before kick off not with it being done during play. No mention of outcome if the game is underway. I always thought the rule was providing the game had past the 60min mark then the result stood? I remember a game years ago being called off after 58mins and the team winning went mad, but cant remember the team (It was a tv game though, think it was lower division teams).

Edit: Just rmembered one of the teams was Forest!

 

[Barry Conlons wig]

didnt go to the match today and havnt even watched it yet as was travelling back from heathrow, sky + it so watchin later.

However spoke to my bro who watched it and he said that what he saw they didnt even have many if any out pitchforking the pitch.

Can anyone at the match confirm this... smells of bad sportsmanship if they didnt, trying to get the game abandoned!

It would have took an army with pitch forks to do any good

That really isn't the point, the 3 that I have since seen were replacing divots not forking the pitch, they made no effort whatsoever!

 

[Roger Ringpiece]

You are reading it wrong, it says nothing about prior to kick off. A game cannot be abandoned unless it has started, a game is only postponed if it hasn't started. Hence when the football results come in a 'p' is used for games that were called off before kick off was due to take place and an 'a' is used for games that have been stopped after kick off and not resumed.

Read a few people quoting 60, 70 minutes etc and the result stands-COMPLETELY WRONG.

Section E, Rules 13 and 14 of this seasons Premier League handbook:

Postponement of League Matches
13. A League Match shall not be postponed or abandoned except:

RULES: SECTION E
13.1 when on the date fixed for it to be played either the Home Club or the Visiting Club is
competing in a competition permitted by Rules E.10.1, E.10.2, and E.10.3; or
13.2 with the approval of or on the instructions of the officiating referee; or
13.3 by order of the police or other authority exercising its statutory powers to that effect; or
13.4 on the instructions of or with the prior written consent of the Board.

14. Upon a League Match being postponed or abandoned in accordance with Rules E.13.1, E.13.2
or E.13.3, the Home Club shall forthwith inform the Secretary, and the Board will thereupon
exercise its power under Rule E.6 and fix a date upon which the League Match in question shall
be played.

Ermmmm I may be reading it wrong but where does that prove what I said is wrong? That rule is with regards to a match being postponed or called off before kick off not with it being done during play. No mention of outcome if the game is underway. I always thought the rule was providing the game had past the 60min mark then the result stood? I remember a game years ago being called off after 58mins and the team winning went mad, but cant remember the team (It was a tv game though, think it was lower division teams).

Edit: Just rmembered one of the teams was Forest!

 

[Barry Conlons wig]

You are reading it wrong, it says nothing about prior to kick off. A game cannot be abandoned unless it has started, a game is only postponed if it hasn't started. Hence when the football results come in a 'p' is used for games that were called off before kick off was due to take place and an 'a' is used for games that have been stopped after kick off and not resumed.

Ermmmm I may be reading it wrong but where does that prove what I said is wrong? That rule is with regards to a match being postponed or called off before kick off not with it being done during play. No mention of outcome if the game is underway. I always thought the rule was providing the game had past the 60min mark then the result stood? I remember a game years ago being called off after 58mins and the team winning went mad, but cant remember the team (It was a tv game though, think it was lower division teams).

Edit: Just rmembered one of the teams was Forest!

I thought there was a cut off point were the result stands if the game gets to that point and is then abandoned, clearly not though.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...on-livid-after-match-is-abandoned-654351.html

In a farcical conclusion to the Nationwide League First Division match at Bramall Lane between Sheffield United and West Bromwich Albion, the referee Eddie Wolstenholme was forced to abandon the game after 82 minutes when, with promotion-chasing Albion leading 3-0, the Blades ran out of players

 

[Roger Ringpiece]

If you remember that game, Neil Warnock actually said he didn't want the game replayed as it wouldn't have been fair to West Brom-not sure Brian Laws would have been as charitable though!