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Teams are better at it now due to the improvement in video analysis.

Had Pep managed in the Pisscan era, he’d have won even more as the analysis wasn’t there to counteract his tactics.

It’s how he retired the GPC.
the italians have had it perfected by many sides since the 60s, milan in the 90s were very effective at it along with counter attacking, mourinho was the most recent master of it and tbf what we are seeing now is cruder and less polished, a good attacking pressing team would break most of the teams using it down quite easily.

Fergie was long gone before Pep arrived in the Pren, Bobby manc finished him off.
 
the italians have had it perfected by many sides since the 60s, milan in the 90s were very effective at it along with counter attacking, mourinho was the most recent master of it and tbf what we are seeing now is cruder and less polished, a good attacking pressing team would break most of the teams using it down quite easily.

Fergie was long gone before Pep, Bobby manc finished him off
2009 and 2011 suggest otherwise.
 
And after relegating them, as you are about to close the door behind you, pop your head round and shout 'thats for 1981you shithouse bastards'
We battered them cunts the season they got relegated in 1977 and then a few years later after they got promoted they were giving it the Billy Big Bollocks despite both clubs having won as many top flight titles as each other at the time.

‘81 was a huge disappointment. Not sure what Tommy Hutch was doing there as Joe had that corner covered. He moved a couple of steps to the left just before Hoddle shot.
 
They haven’t. They block keepers from catching the ball and exploit a law that needs changing.

We create more than them in open play against low blocks. We’ve just not been clinical enough.

'Exploiting a law that needs changing"... You mean 'playing within the law' then?

You're right about not being clinical enough though, but I must warn you that saying that could lead me into one of my 'should have signed Harry Kane' rants!

;-)
 
'Exploiting a law that needs changing"... You mean 'playing within the law' then?

You're right about not being clinical enough though, but I must warn you that saying that could lead me into obe of my 'should have signed Harry Kane' rants!

;-)
Pretty much everyone in football is in agreement about that.

You’re a fun sponge. I’ll leave you to it.
 
Defensive low blocks are making football much more dull to watch. No one has come up with the way to beat this version of it, which is why goals scored is down.

There’s also a huge dearth of creativity in football in general at the moment.
We used to employ the “false 9” to break down the low block, not sure why we don’t use it again
 
I think in our case you can be ok with poor performances, unless you’re around 18 and know nothing other than success. I can almost get that if that’s the case.

But to call for Peps head, which I’ve seen plenty of, is as rag like entitlement as it gets. Went gone from nothing to everything in a relative blink of an eye. A few or more poor performances and unsuccessful seasons should be given tolerance.

spot on
 
We battered them cunts the season they got relegated in 1977 and then a few years later after they got promoted they were giving it the Billy Big Bollocks despite both clubs having won as many top flight titles as each other at the time.

‘81 was a huge disappointment. Not sure what Tommy Hutch was doing there as Joe had that corner covered. He moved a couple of steps to the left just before Hoddle shot.
Oh thanks. After all the years I've only just stopped seeing my therapist and you bring it all back.

Nurse, my meds quickly.
 
I loved every minute at Maine Road mate. I remember getting my first season ticket aged 12 (89) and singing that hard at every game I’d get home with a banging headache and be that full of adrenaline I couldn’t sleep that night. I’ll never get that buzz back but I’m glad I experienced it. What a club :)
The Kippax banging headache was deffo a thing. The adrenaline, for me, was sorted with a few scoops of Chesters Mild back in Alty. Problem was, the Kippax headache was replaced by the far worse Chesters headache in the morning. Broke many a man that.
 
The Kippax banging headache was deffo a thing. The adrenaline, for me, was sorted with a few scoops of Chesters Mild back in Alty. Problem was, the Kippax headache was replaced by the far worse Chesters headache in the morning. Broke many a man that.
Dangerous stuff that 3% mild :)
 
Yeah, it wasn't the 3% that produced the headache, it was the slops from the other barrels the landlord poured into the Chesters.
It was a decent pint, Chester’s Mild. Think it was brewed at Salford until 1991 I’d guess when production moved to Sheffield. Chester’s estate was core working class; some massive boozers in there. The Bradford*, The Green End and The Parkside spring to mind.

* The one in Beswick, not the one in Miles Platting which is far smaller.
 
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When did first loser become something to celebrate?

The fact that it's better than most of the shite I sat through for years doesn't make it ok. We won't win trophies every year, no team has or will, but if you're happy with

Did you do that with Ball, Clarke, Hughes and a million managers in between? I don't remember me being particularly supportive of the owners, managers or players through a lot of that period and that's ignoring the Swales out that went on for years.

I know we're nowhere near that bad anymore, but you can't spend what we have, and have the success we've had over the last 18 years, and then be ok with poor performances over a couple of seasons. The standard of the club and players has increased and the expectation of the fans has been raised with it. And fans venting on a forum doesn't mean they're not supportive - I saw the end of the dippers game and there were very loud boos at the end, something I've rarely heard at the Etihad, although that may be because everyone has left at 80 minutes ;-)
It is the extreme venting that there is an issue with and the comments that are patently not true. It is borne of frustration because we have been so successful, uniquely successful.

Someone I know posted yesterday that he was sick of shit result after shit result. No team in second place has that, and until the last three games we had been on the league's best run. His comment was untrue.

In this thread, someone inferred that Cherki had lost his creativity because Pep had requested a simpler game from him, which is patently absurd or we wouldn't have been crying out for him to join the pitch against West Ham. As soon as he came on, he created.

People saying that Pep's tactics no longer work in the PL - drivel. The whole game has changed towards his model, but the league has become ultra defensive to cope with it. You just need to do it better and with a bit more variety. West Ham had one shot on goal. That is utterly shit in 90 minutes and it happened because we dominated the game. What we didn't do was finish the CLEAR chances that fell to Semenyo, Guehi, and Haaland, as well as a number of lesser chances. Erling is out of form and Phil too, two of our main goalscorers.

People saying that Rodri is finished - DRIVEL - you watch a different game.
It is ALWAYS about a functioning whole, and Rodri just needs a physical partner alongside him.

People saying Savinho is shit - DRIVEL - nobody roasts Lewis Hall like he did if they are shit. He is just a 21 year old developing player with a lot of talent but, as of now, a lot of inconsistency and things to improve. The extreme venting avoids that level of objective analysis because the red mist has descended.

All of the top teams spend significant money and ALL have had to bow to us for more than a decade...Arsenal included. That is a rare sequence in a cyclical sport. Saying that because of the money we spent we should expect more assumes that others are not spending, which is false.

We are in the midst of a rebuild, and we all knew it before the season began. In that rebuild, 3rd and 2nd place, which is likely, is a decent result. It isn't perfect, and there are frustrations along the way, but decent it definitely is.

The reason I created the thread was because of the extreme venting. It wasn't because of opinions about the game, tactics, player choice, or stats. It was because of supporters calling players shit, past it, or never will be . All rubbish given the success those players have earned us.
 
Like I’m trying to think of the great Maine Road days after that, until the Kippax was rebuilt.

Liverpool later that year, the 10-1, The 5-1, Liverpool in 1991.

Think that’s probably it, and one of them, next to no **** was there!*

*I was, obvs.

The Charlton game is still one of my favourite games at Maine Road (although the Huddersfield game will never be beaten due to it being on my birthday) there was absolutely no way there was 52,000 at that game. There was more than that. The windy corner was so packed my dad and a couple of other bloke got me to sit on the he wall at the top of the stand to Keep me safe.

Although that wasn't entirely safe either!
 
The Charlton game is still one of my favourite games at Maine Road (although the Huddersfield game will never be beaten due to it being on my birthday) there was absolutely no way there was 52,000 at that game. There was more than that. The windy corner was so packed my dad and a couple of other bloke got me to sit on the he wall at the top of the stand to Keep me safe.

Although that wasn't entirely safe either!
Agree with you on the attendance but I’m pretty sure the official figure was less than 52k. 47k plus change springs to mind. 52k was the capacity at that point.

I’d say there were close to 60k there that day. People talk about how crowded the Kippax was (which it was) but people were also sat on the steps in the Platt Lane because the seats were full.
 
Online reflects the world and social media. It's here. I'm definitely guilty of it at times, although I do my best to think before I write.

City evolved under Pep, and then the rest caught up, so Pep evolved us again, and then the gap narrowed considerably. So, teams are finding ways to break down defences and mix things up. This is football. It happens. The sulking end and feelings after a game are normal. Doesn't always need to be typed (or read). We go on. New days and all that.
 

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