When did first loser become something to celebrate?
The fact that it's better than most of the shite I sat through for years doesn't make it ok. We won't win trophies every year, no team has or will, but if you're happy with
Did you do that with Ball, Clarke, Hughes and a million managers in between? I don't remember me being particularly supportive of the owners, managers or players through a lot of that period and that's ignoring the Swales out that went on for years.
I know we're nowhere near that bad anymore, but you can't spend what we have, and have the success we've had over the last 18 years, and then be ok with poor performances over a couple of seasons. The standard of the club and players has increased and the expectation of the fans has been raised with it. And fans venting on a forum doesn't mean they're not supportive - I saw the end of the dippers game and there were very loud boos at the end, something I've rarely heard at the Etihad, although that may be because everyone has left at 80 minutes ;-)
It is the extreme venting that there is an issue with and the comments that are patently not true. It is borne of frustration because we have been so successful, uniquely successful.
Someone I know posted yesterday that he was sick of shit result after shit result. No team in second place has that, and until the last three games we had been on the league's best run. His comment was untrue.
In this thread, someone inferred that Cherki had lost his creativity because Pep had requested a simpler game from him, which is patently absurd or we wouldn't have been crying out for him to join the pitch against West Ham. As soon as he came on, he created.
People saying that Pep's tactics no longer work in the PL - drivel. The whole game has changed towards his model, but the league has become ultra defensive to cope with it. You just need to do it better and with a bit more variety. West Ham had one shot on goal. That is utterly shit in 90 minutes and it happened because we dominated the game. What we didn't do was finish the CLEAR chances that fell to Semenyo, Guehi, and Haaland, as well as a number of lesser chances. Erling is out of form and Phil too, two of our main goalscorers.
People saying that Rodri is finished - DRIVEL - you watch a different game.
It is ALWAYS about a functioning whole, and Rodri just needs a physical partner alongside him.
People saying Savinho is shit - DRIVEL - nobody roasts Lewis Hall like he did if they are shit. He is just a 21 year old developing player with a lot of talent but, as of now, a lot of inconsistency and things to improve. The extreme venting avoids that level of objective analysis because the red mist has descended.
All of the top teams spend significant money and ALL have had to bow to us for more than a decade...Arsenal included. That is a rare sequence in a cyclical sport. Saying that because of the money we spent we should expect more assumes that others are not spending, which is false.
We are in the midst of a rebuild, and we all knew it before the season began. In that rebuild, 3rd and 2nd place, which is likely, is a decent result. It isn't perfect, and there are frustrations along the way, but decent it definitely is.
The reason I created the thread was because of the extreme venting. It wasn't because of opinions about the game, tactics, player choice, or stats. It was because of supporters calling players shit, past it, or never will be . All rubbish given the success those players have earned us.