Hard To Be Here

[burning blue soul]

Yesterday was wank though!

;)

 

[GaudinoMotors]

As a regular contributor to the forum, and a fan since 1968, I am looking at the forum tonight, and for large parts of last season, wondering how I can avoid becoming so utterly irritated by mindless comments. Apparently Rico is the least athletic player in the entire league, Cherki will have the flair taken from him, and Pep will ruin Omar Marmoush, just as three examples. Every single one of us feels a defeat, but does it really need to come with comments so devoid of sense or sporting insight because we didn't take away the points and have lost our heads?

Lots of likes, yet the "mindless comments" may not be far wrong. Still .

 

[Stoned Rose]

Some of our lot are entitled wankers now mate

We should have a separate section on the forum for those that endured the Pearce days and beyond

Like of course I was peeved about today, but I sold my soul for the treble so maybe I'm to blame....

Could call that the PTSD subforum.

 

[B\connellblue]

The biggest issue is that for many we are now Pep FC , they cannot accept that his time here is ending , they attack anyone who even suggests he is no longer producing the goods. The pack have caught up and gone by. The fear factor is gone. Last Season was a real wake up call ,on yesterday's showing the slumber continues. On Rico Lewis? any blame is all on Pep and not on the kid whom he hangs out to dry almost weekly. Not signing a recognised right back is beyond a joke at this stage. Annoyingly just 1 week in all the old frailties have surfaced.

 

[thegoatsthegoat]

Some of our lot are entitled wankers now mate

We should have a separate section on the forum for those that endured the Pearce days and beyond

Like of course I was peeved about today, but I sold my soul for the treble so maybe I'm to blame....

Many like you still think it’s the 90s and we should just be happy to win a corner. Small time

 

[thegoatsthegoat]

This is exactly the same as society in general; so many KFA given a voice to spout crap on something they know nothing about.

You mean a fans forum where fans are here to voice their opinions?

 

[Marvin.]

The biggest issue is that for many we are now Pep FC , they cannot accept that his time here is ending , they attack anyone who even suggests he is no longer producing the goods. The pack have caught up and gone by. The fear factor is gone. Last Season was a real wake up call ,on yesterday's showing the slumber continues. On Rico Lewis? any blame is all on Pep and not on the kid whom he hangs out to dry almost weekly. Not signing a recognised right back is beyond a joke at this stage. Annoyingly just 1 week in all the old frailties have surfaced.

I don't think that is down to Pep. It is down to a decline in quality of the players in our squad. Spurs won most of their duels yesterday. They have a very strong defence that is much stronger than City's. Paulinha and Van der Ven were the games dominant platers.

 

[eastmanc]

As a regular contributor to the forum, and a fan since 1968, I am looking at the forum tonight, and for large parts of last season, wondering how I can avoid becoming so utterly irritated by mindless comments. Apparently Rico is the least athletic player in the entire league, Cherki will have the flair taken from him, and Pep will ruin Omar Marmoush, just as three examples. Every single one of us feels a defeat, but does it really need to come with comments so devoid of sense or sporting insight because we didn't take away the points and have lost our heads?

I know it's utter bollox isn't it.

 

[Marvin.]

As a regular contributor to the forum, and a fan since 1968, I am looking at the forum tonight, and for large parts of last season, wondering how I can avoid becoming so utterly irritated by mindless comments. Apparently Rico is the least athletic player in the entire league, Cherki will have the flair taken from him, and Pep will ruin Omar Marmoush, just as three examples. Every single one of us feels a defeat, but does it really need to come with comments so devoid of sense or sporting insight because we didn't take away the points and have lost our heads?

The Pep will ruin Marmoush comment has some grain of truth. One of my conclusion from that game is that Marmoush is ineffective on the left wing. That's not based on this game alone. I think if we want to play Haaland and Marmoush then Pep has to play another system to fit them in.

 

[B\connellblue]

I don't think that is down to Pep. It is down to a decline in quality of the players in our squad. Spurs won most of their duels yesterday. They have a very strong defence that is much stronger than City's. Paulinha and Van der Ven were the games dominant platers.

But surely Pep has had an input in all these replacements we have brought in to arrest the decline in quality. For some strange reason we don't target pacy,athletic and powerful players. Pedestrian Is how I'd describe our effort yesterday.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I'm 61 next week and I've had an Adult Season Ticket ever since I became an Adult, so I've endured and enjoyed in equal measure.

To be honest many posters are equally guilty at spouting reactionary and revisionary nonsense after a win.

Last week was never a 4-0 performance and Wolves missed a sitter at the start of the second half from a move not dissimilar to Tottenham's first goal.
That's football, but I noticed as the week progressed that people were starting to revise their opinions of how we'd actually performed at Molineux. Suddenly, we didn't need a right back and we'd become more clinical when converting chances.

Yesterday, Marmoush almost scored from an extremely tight angle after the Tottenham goalkeeper had been caught in no mans land. Another ref might have awarded a penalty for the foul on Bobb, but similarly another referee might have red carded Trafford.

Rodri missed a free header from a corner

Haaland "almost scored from a header, but he seems to "almost" score from a header every week. Perhaps one day the penny will drop that for all his undoubted finishing prowess, he's actually not very good in the air.

The 2nd goal was farcical, but we'd already tried that move on 2-3 occasions, and I recall Stones putting a flat footed Lewis under pressure near the corner flag with a 1mph pass.

Somehow, we've allowed Spurs to become our bogey side at the ETIHAD despite winning our last three games at their ground.

However, they were undoubtedly fitter and more focussed, and dare, I suggest that they'd enjoyed a proper pre-season whereas we looked as though we'd be ready by mid September.

 

[Macca77macca]

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My second favourite ever film, second only to Alien

 

[spider blue]

As a regular contributor to the forum, and a fan since 1968, I am looking at the forum tonight, and for large parts of last season, wondering how I can avoid becoming so utterly irritated by mindless comments. Apparently Rico is the least athletic player in the entire league, Cherki will have the flair taken from him, and Pep will ruin Omar Marmoush, just as three examples. Every single one of us feels a defeat, but does it really need to come with comments so devoid of sense or sporting insight because we didn't take away the points and have lost our heads?

Absolutely spot on mate, I feel so down and disappointed after a defeat, but to call the players/ management is so futile after elevating us to the heights we’ve experienced over the last years, keep the faith.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

When I flew Concorde it was fabulous and professional - a simple thank you sufficed.
When I flew Ryanair it was shit, ran out of food and lost my luggage.
Which do you suppose made me want to vent and write more??
Honestly, some right over-sensitive eggshells on here.


Obviously I recognise the irony that Concorde crashed ;-)

 

[give it to gordon]

There's clearly been a drop off from 4 in a row teams.
We arent watching players like KDB, Aguero, Kompany, D Silva, Yaya, FFS, Fernandinho, we have Rodri coming back from injury, hopefully Phil can find his form.
You only need to watch games from a few seasons ago and we had energy and were a good watch.
Last season was not a great watch.

Wolves last week I thought we had our pace back and were a good watch. I didn't see yesterday's game but it seems we were slow like last season. That must be down to Pep. I thought with these two coaches coming in from dipperpool they would have injected pace into the team. Seems Pep is still being stubborn !

 

[Revolver]

We are going to have to be patient as we are in rebuild.

The last 5-6 years are unique for any club and are not the norm.

We have seen from looking at some Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal fans what entitlement brings.

 

[stonerblue]

Negativity is in fashion, plus success brings mard arse ways.

whatever happenend to the win or lose on the booze attitude.

Well i got leathered yesterday.
After a turgid 1st half i had to crack a can then continued til !0pm

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

But, Ric. This has always been the case, even before social media came around. Humans are following human nature. Its what we all do, to a greater or lesser extent, about something we are passionate about.

I have a big issue with the vitriol aimed at other posters who show this emotion, from other nembers who elevate themselves above mere fans, to Superfan status, and find it acceptable to abuse other members for voicing a (sometimes) under-thunk and over emotional opinion, or even just a differing opinion.

As I have mentioned previously. Posters are turning on other posters in a very aggressive manner, dressing it up as them defending the club/players/manager/tea lady, etc... the reality is they are working out their frustrations on other members, rather than the club. This is not OK.

The abuse that goes unchecked by the mods is becoming a concern. People say dickish things in the heat of the moment on the match day threads- it's what people do in stressful situations. They then say things on the post match threads for the same reasons. The problem is not these people expressing their human nature, it is the others who can't just let it run its course without diving in on them.

The cherry on this shit cake is for the ones aggressively piling-on to other posters, to then lament the abuse being slung around the site by "plastics who've never been there when we were shit" as if that qualifies a higher fan level status.
What is getting worse, Ric, is the level of acceptance of abusive and uncalled for aggressive language on this site from one poster to another, and that is something you need to tackle (but, cleanly. No knee-high lunges ;) )

Good post.

I don't like seeing nasty online bullying at someone having a difference of opinion, especially if an opinion is balanced and reasoned. it's unfair and out of order.

I remember a poster called Hodge on off topic who was a flat earther. He could handle the gentle piss taking for his beliefs but a few posters wouldn't let it go and got nasty. Although I don't believe in flat earth he did and elaborated on why, so fair enough. Several other posters have been hounded off this forum for having controversial views that go against the general consensus of opinion.

A few have tried it on with me over the years and I prefer to humour them In trying to pacify the situation. One particular poster was losing an argument and highlighted 2 or 3 of his mates as back up to try and ridicule me. I ended up telling them all bluntly to fuck off. And that was the end of it.

I think some posters like to be controversial and post shite to deliberately wind people. I think we should have a dislike button as it would save certain posters responding and getting nasty. And it may even make wum posters realise their idiotic comments and feel embarrassed.

@Ric. I'd like a dislike button for balance, and I think it a good idea to thread ban someone with 10 dislikes.

I think I've had 10 perms bans over the years mostly in off topic and mostly by 2 or 3 mods with zero sense of humour and tolerance. Glad to say they are no longer mods and I no longer get into conflict with them. The softly softly mod approach is much better nowadays and I've been told that perma bans are a last resort, but I think a dislike button with (say) 10 dislikes get a thread ban, like I suggested.

 

[mattcity5]

I'm 61 next week and I've had an Adult Season Ticket ever since I became an Adult, so I've endured and enjoyed in equal measure.

To be honest many posters are equally guilty at spouting reactionary and revisionary nonsense after a win.

Last week was never a 4-0 performance and Wolves missed a sitter at the start of the second half from a move not dissimilar to Tottenham's first goal.
That's football, but I noticed as the week progressed that people were starting to revise their opinions of how we'd actually performed at Molineux. Suddenly, we didn't need a right back and we'd become more clinical when converting chances.

Yesterday, Marmoush almost scored from an extremely tight angle after the Tottenham goalkeeper had been caught in no mans land. Another ref might have awarded a penalty for the foul on Bobb, but similarly another referee might have red carded Trafford.

Rodri missed a free header from a corner

Haaland "almost scored from a header, but he seems to "almost" score from a header every week. Perhaps one day the penny will drop that for all his undoubted finishing prowess, he's actually not very good in the air.

The 2nd goal was farcical, but we'd already tried that move on 2-3 occasions, and I recall Stones putting a flat footed Lewis under pressure near the corner flag with a 1mph pass.

Somehow, we've allowed Spurs to become our bogey side at the ETIHAD despite winning our last three games at their ground.

However, they were undoubtedly fitter and more focussed, and dare, I suggest that they'd enjoyed a proper pre-season whereas we looked as though we'd be ready by mid September.

That first goal has happened a lot of times. I'd say it's a team failing - how do they manage to always get that far upfield and free on our left hand side? How come nobody ever cuts out the cross? How come Rico doesn't rescue the situation? (Sometimes not his fault, but sometimes - like yesterday - he could have reacted slightly quicker and saved us).

It doesn't seem to happen from the other side, so this is planned by the opposition. We need to find a way to deal with it or it'll happen every few games.

 

[stonerblue]

The Pep will ruin Marmoush comment has some grain of truth. One of my conclusion from that game is that Marmoush is ineffective on the left wing. That's not based on this game alone. I think if we want to play Haaland and Marmoush then Pep has to play another system to fit them in.

I'd have had Marmoush just behind Haaland and Silva instead of Cherki, who looked 'lost' most of the game.