Has anyone ever changed who they vote for by debating on blue moon?

[r.soleofsalford]

My thought, rsos - is Aloysius Atkinson his real name or a nom de plume? By the way, did yer get to see the game in Hampshire?

No DEBe, I decided to come home on Tuesday evening and watch the game in a horizontal position from the comfort of my sofa. The drive up from Hampshire took me 6 hours. The motorways in country are a fucking disgrace.

On a brighter note, I enjoyed the game and thought Foden and Jesus played great and the game time recieved by Garcia, Taylor Harwood- Belis, Zincy and Mendy will have done them the world of good.

Hope you are keep well do you still go to the academy games.

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

I haven't changed who I vote for as a result of debating on this forum with anybody.

However, I have had my own political intuitions confirmed through interactions with a couple of more right-wing contributors to another forum.

They always posted as if they knew a fair bit about economics and their posts looked as if they did.

So I did some extensive, sustained reading on the subject by consulting (mainly) academic sources that are generally thought to be reputable and that have enjoyed acclaim from others in the field. Turned out that those aforementioned contributors were wearing the emperor's new clothes.

What I learned was this: economic growth in the ACC's (Advanced Capitalist Countries) was actually greater between the 1950's and 1970's, including the period of stagflation, than at any time subsequently.

Moreover, the pattern since the early 1980's has largely been for wealth to be transferred from the poor to the rich.

When I started to post this stuff on that other forum, in far more forensic detail than I have on here, they went all quiet.

I have never voted Tory and now never will because of this, though I did also conclude that a more regulated version of capitalism is still preferable to the more planned economy favoured by socialists.

This also perhaps demonstrates why the study of global economic history, especially over the last 70 years, is so important (apparently, university Economics courses neglect this aspect of the subject), as it can provide a bigger picture that party political squabbling over the more recent handling of the domestic economy in the UK tends to obscure.

Of course, voters may not have the economy uppermost in their mind when they decide to vote.

It is also possible that I was attracted to publications that merely confirmed what I already thought.

But anyway, here they are:

Ha Joon Chang 23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism, Economics: The User's Guide, Bad Samaritans
David Harvey A Brief History of Neoliberalism
Manfred Steger and Ravi Roy Neoliberalism: A Very Short Introduction
Nicholas Wapshott Keynes v Hayek
Mark Fisher Capitalist Realism
Tony Judt Ill Fares The Land
Robert Heilbroner The Worldly Philosophers
Matthieu Ricard Altruism
Kate Pickett and Richard Wilkinson The Spirit Level: Why Equality is Better for Everyone
Mark LeVine Heavy Metal Islam (contains some useful information on how neoliberal economics has impacted on the MENA)
Arundhati Roy Capitalism: A Love Story
Paul Verhaeghe What About Me? The Struggle for Identity in a Market-Based Society

 

[goat boy]

Ive followed the election thread here but i can't remember contributing. Ingesting an alternative viewpoint is worthwhile from time to time, even if it tastes like it might have originated in Victor Meldrew's shite pipe. Oddly though, the standard of discussion in here seems higher. Carry on.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

No DEBe, I decided to come home on Tuesday evening and watch the game in a horizontal position from the comfort of my sofa. The drive up from Hampshire took me 6 hours. The motorways in country are a fucking disgrace.

On a brighter note, I enjoyed the game and thought Foden and Jesus played great and the game time recieved by Garcia, Taylor Harwood- Belis, Zincy and Mendy will have done them the world of good.

Hope you are keep well do you still go to the academy games.

I do, although, despite the scorelines, I have been mightily pee-ed off with the women's general play. I have a feeling that they are putting a sleeping pill in the Lucozade.

 

[whp.blue]

Yes for me.


Rascals posts on here turned me into a Tory.

 

[squirtyflower]

Actually yes
A group of self aggrandising, hate filled, abusive posters drove me to go to the ballot box and vote Tory for the very first time.

I couldn’t stomach the thought that people like them actually were now running the Labour Party, until it hit me even harder when I met some of them. The bullying in person was extreme.