Have you noticed?

Can I just correct everybody on this thread....

Man United have never spent any money all their players including Cantona, Keane and Rooney came through their youth ranks.

I know this because I read it in the Sun, Mirror, Star, MUEN etc
 
Stevie B said:
John Hartson had some truth tonight on MOTD2....

"Chelsea bought the title a few years ago.
Blackburn did it years ago with Shearer.
Rags do it EVERY YEAR"

Tooooo right Hartson, about time someone spoke truth.

MOTD2 pisses on MOTD interms of genuine footballing knowledge.

Hansen/Lawrenson need to retire

Only this.

MOTD2 is a far superior show.
 
MCFC1993 said:
John Hartson 'People have bought the title before...united have done it every year' aye the pundits are doing better!

I nearly spat me tea out! The truth about the rags from a pundit on MOTD2!!

Been a long time coming :-)
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Skashion said:
Don't know what your issue with Dixon is. He's always been on our side.

Thing is, when I posted this, it wasn't about Lee Dixon but more generally how the media are changing the tone of the way they talk about us. However the direction this thread has gone has got me thinking.

This Lee Dixon is a blue thing. Well as it happens I saw Lee Dixon play at The Victoria Ground in 1988 and my mate who was next to me said the right back for Stoke is a blue.

So I've been aware of that fact for a while now. But what evidence do we actually have of that?

What has his involvement with the club been apart from watching the odd game when we're in London? Did he ever offer to get involved with the club when he retired? Did he talk like a fan when criticising us last season?

Maybe your definition of a fan is different to mine, but that falls well short of my expectations.

His dad was on City's books as a reserve keeper in the 50s, Lee was a S/T holder as a kid, as were most of his family. When he's working for the Beeb he's paid to give an objective viewpoint so if he sees what he thinks are faults in City's game he'll say so, it doesn't mean he's putting us down.
 
Stevie B said:
Big difference between insults/putting the club down and Constructive Criticism.

Something most of us do on here every day, and we're apparent blues
Dixon said "Yes", live on Football Focus at the time we were taken over - and I know because I watched with my own eyes - in response to the question are City ruining football? Hardly constructive criticism. He's a gooner that still has a soft spot for City, he isn't a blue.
 
Kennedy_probably_has said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
short highlights though.

They didn't show any of the masterclass between our 3rd goal and Bolton's equaliser. Suppose they've only got a certain amount of time but I was surprised because in that time we played some quality stuff.

Bolton equaliser???????

when was that then?
 
Saw Lee Dixon in the hotel foyet on Wembley before the semi. He was posing for pictures with blues. He had tiny City badge on and was buzzing with all fellow blues. When City do well and he is on MOTD he always has a big cheesy grin on but when we play shit he critiques without any bias,what he is paid for and expected to do.
 
Kennedy_probably_has said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
short highlights though.

They didn't show any of the masterclass between our 3rd goal and Bolton's equaliser. Suppose they've only got a certain amount of time but I was surprised because in that time we played some quality stuff.


Oh dear - how embarrassing.
I have the horrible feeling that this may turn into one of those 'Liam Gallagher is a wanker and not a proper blue because he missed York away when Oasis were headlining at Knebworth' threads.
So for that reason.i'm out...
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Skashion said:
Don't know what your issue with Dixon is. He's always been on our side.

Thing is, when I posted this, it wasn't about Lee Dixon but more generally how the media are changing the tone of the way they talk about us. However the direction this thread has gone has got me thinking.

This Lee Dixon is a blue thing. Well as it happens I saw Lee Dixon play at The Victoria Ground in 1988 and my mate who was next to me said the right back for Stoke is a blue.

So I've been aware of that fact for a while now. But what evidence do we actually have of that?

What has his involvement with the club been apart from watching the odd game when we're in London? Did he ever offer to get involved with the club when he retired? Did he talk like a fan when criticising us last season?

Maybe your definition of a fan is different to mine, but that falls well short of my expectations.
I can vouch for him as he went to my school if that's any help.
 
strongbowholic said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Skashion said:
Don't know what your issue with Dixon is. He's always been on our side.

Thing is, when I posted this, it wasn't about Lee Dixon but more generally how the media are changing the tone of the way they talk about us. However the direction this thread has gone has got me thinking.

This Lee Dixon is a blue thing. Well as it happens I saw Lee Dixon play at The Victoria Ground in 1988 and my mate who was next to me said the right back for Stoke is a blue.

So I've been aware of that fact for a while now. But what evidence do we actually have of that?

What has his involvement with the club been apart from watching the odd game when we're in London? Did he ever offer to get involved with the club when he retired? Did he talk like a fan when criticising us last season?

Maybe your definition of a fan is different to mine, but that falls well short of my expectations.
I can vouch for him as he went to my school if that's any help.

OK. Fair enough. Still not sure he's an out and out 'fan' as I would define it but this thread wasn't meant to be about him, more the wankathon which is going on in the press right now over us.

I'm happy to concede that Lee Dixon, at least as far as he is concerned, is a blue.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
strongbowholic said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Thing is, when I posted this, it wasn't about Lee Dixon but more generally how the media are changing the tone of the way they talk about us. However the direction this thread has gone has got me thinking.

This Lee Dixon is a blue thing. Well as it happens I saw Lee Dixon play at The Victoria Ground in 1988 and my mate who was next to me said the right back for Stoke is a blue.

So I've been aware of that fact for a while now. But what evidence do we actually have of that?

What has his involvement with the club been apart from watching the odd game when we're in London? Did he ever offer to get involved with the club when he retired? Did he talk like a fan when criticising us last season?

Maybe your definition of a fan is different to mine, but that falls well short of my expectations.
I can vouch for him as he went to my school if that's any help.

OK. Fair enough. Still not sure he's an out and out 'fan' as I would define it but this thread wasn't meant to be about him, more the wankathon which is going on in the press right now over us.

I'm happy to concede that Lee Dixon, at least as far as he is concerned, is a blue.
"As far as he is concerned"!

If someone is employed as a media "pundit", they would soon lose all credibility if they were never critical of the club they supported, but were always fawning over them.

Hansen, for all his faults, is often critical of Liverpool.

It is people such as Dixon who reassure me that not all football fans are as stupidly one-eyed as so many who post on football club fan sites.

Dixon strikes me as one of the most intelligent and unbiased media football pundits. He is a credit to the Manchester City fanbase.
 
I've noticed that the tide seems to have turned, at least for the moment. The degenerate crackhead still hates us but he's like Hitler in his bunker, convinced he's right and everyone else is wrong, despite all the evidence to the contrary. I noticed watching Football First that even Ray Wilkins was purring over that performance.

Wenger and Arsenal are the new whipping boys (with Everton also attracting some attention) and they're getting beaten up over the fact that Wenger isn't spending decent money on experience. So they can hardly criticise us for doing that.
 
Bilboblue said:
Tricky_Trev said:
Loved that analysis when they showed the movement of our midfield, and how Pearce repeatedly said we've looked the best team in the league. Made me sex wee.


...........after two fekkin games, excuse me if I don't get my cock out just yet.

I fucking hope you don't you dirty sex tourist!!!
You don't know where it's been...<br /><br />-- Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:55 am --<br /><br />
Bilboblue said:
Tricky_Trev said:
Loved that analysis when they showed the movement of our midfield, and how Pearce repeatedly said we've looked the best team in the league. Made me sex wee.


...........after two fekkin games, excuse me if I don't get my cock out just yet.

I fucking hope you don't you dirty sex tourist!!!
You don't know where it's been...
 
Frank H said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
strongbowholic said:
I can vouch for him as he went to my school if that's any help.

OK. Fair enough. Still not sure he's an out and out 'fan' as I would define it but this thread wasn't meant to be about him, more the wankathon which is going on in the press right now over us.

I'm happy to concede that Lee Dixon, at least as far as he is concerned, is a blue.
"As far as he is concerned"!

If someone is employed as a media "pundit", they would soon lose all credibility if they were never critical of the club they supported, but were always fawning over them.

Hansen, for all his faults, is often critical of Liverpool.

It is people such as Dixon who reassure me that not all football fans are as stupidly one-eyed as so many who post on football club fan sites.

Dixon strikes me as one of the most intelligent and unbiased media football pundits. He is a credit to the Manchester City fanbase.

Yes, as far as he is concerned. I'm sure Colin Schindler thinks of himself as a City fan too.

Wasn't going to comment any further on Dixon, but seeing as you resorted to thinly veiled personal insults I'll bite.

Would you, as a fan, ever go on National TV and say that City were 'ruining football'?

I wouldn't. Maybe you would. I can only call it based on my ideas of what a City 'fan' would do irrespective of professional obligations.

Does that mean that I could ever talk objectively about City ? Yes I could, but only to the extent I do on here.

Have any City fans you know ever said (seriously) we were ruining football?

And as for Hansen being the bastion of fairness when it comes to matters Liverpool, I think that says a great deal about your capacity to evaluate whether someone is 'intelligent and unbiased'.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Frank H said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
OK. Fair enough. Still not sure he's an out and out 'fan' as I would define it but this thread wasn't meant to be about him, more the wankathon which is going on in the press right now over us.

I'm happy to concede that Lee Dixon, at least as far as he is concerned, is a blue.
"As far as he is concerned"!

If someone is employed as a media "pundit", they would soon lose all credibility if they were never critical of the club they supported, but were always fawning over them.

Hansen, for all his faults, is often critical of Liverpool.

It is people such as Dixon who reassure me that not all football fans are as stupidly one-eyed as so many who post on football club fan sites.

Dixon strikes me as one of the most intelligent and unbiased media football pundits. He is a credit to the Manchester City fanbase.

Yes, as far as he is concerned. I'm sure Colin Schindler thinks of himself as a City fan too.

Wasn't going to comment any further on Dixon, but seeing as you resorted to thinly veiled personal insults I'll bite.

Would you, as a fan, ever go on National TV and say that City were 'ruining football'?

I wouldn't. Maybe you would. I can only call it based on my ideas of what a City 'fan' would do irrespective of professional obligations.

Does that mean that I could ever talk objectively about City ? Yes I could, but only to the extent I do on here.

Have any City fans you know ever said (seriously) we were ruining football?

And as for Hansen being the bastion of fairness when it comes to matters Liverpool, I think that says a great deal about your capacity to evaluate whether someone is 'intelligent and unbiased'.
My "insults" were not "thinly veiled" - I had no intention that they were to be veiled at all. But they weren't "personal", as I haven't the faintest idea who you are!

And I would never claim that Hansen was a "bastion of fairness"! All I did was to point out that it was quite possible for a fan to be honestly critical of the club of which he/she is a fan. I would hope that, for instance, many genuine Everton fans were highly critical of the club when it employed the notoriously racist Gordon Lee as a manager.

For the record, I am not a Man.City fan. Neither am I a rag, a bindipper, a gooner etc.etc. There is only one club of which I am a fan, AFC Wimbledon.

I am however a Man.City supporter, not exactly the same thing, and have been for years. I still remember the glorious year of 1968, and watching the great City team of that era - and was very happy that they, rather than ManU or anyone else, deservedly won the then first division.

I have an interest, partly academic, in the phenomenon of sports fans, and thus regularly drop in on a handful of football fan sites - of the clubs of which I am a supporter (not a fan). I sometimes find it a rather depressing experience, which is why I am thankful for such as Lee Dixon, who proves that football fans need not always be hate-filled fanatics.

As for Man.City "ruining" football - I would only agree in the sense that it is part of the general phenomenon of money ruining football, which started long long ago, and if that is what Lee Dixon meant, I would agree with him.

However, others cannot complain if Man.City are only doing what ManU, Liverpool etc. have done so for years. And how many people accused Jack Walker and Blackburn of "ruining football" when they in effect bought the Premiership?

And the plus side of the money situation is that in the present ManCity side we might have what is potentially the most exciting football team in this country for years, one which might bring a touch of Barcelona to our shores.

Perhaps it is this prospect which is fuelling the present media "wankfest".
 
I can't find it anywhere online nor can I remember if it was Dixon but after the chelsea away match last season he said how he doesn't know what the city scouting team were doing, he doesn't know where he gets his price tag from, he almost trips himself up and a lot of similar stuff (talking about Dzeko)

anyway it was good of him to say that he has given him some stick...and the host follows up by saying: "A lot" :)

Dzeko has turned things around for himself, so will city...
 

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