I’ve got an EPC, hence why I didn’t understand why I wouldn’t get the discount. But as you and others have posted, the returns over such a long period of time aren’t worth the expensive initial outlay. Even if I wanted to buy a heat pump those kind of returns would put me off buying a heat pump. I’d rather buy solar panels as most of my money goes on electricity, not on gas.
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Citizen of Legoland
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Seeing all that shite pipe work in the garage has put me off. Think I’ll upgrade my 15 yo gas boiler before they get banned rather than all that.
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Energy performance certificate (EPC) – Find an energy certificate – GOV.UK
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Mine is an E right now lovely artic breeze constantly running through it.
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My mate Methuselah thinks thats ok and a good deal for him ;-)
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blueish swede
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Look at getting an air-air heat pump to heat your house and a heat pump water heater for your hot water. Installation is minimal, and you could come in under £7500 for the lot.Just been on Heat Geek, typed in my address, amended my property details from 2 bathrooms to 1 bathroom and got a clear and well laid out instant quote for a heat pump, installation, heat Geek Assurance and yearly saving. You can’t fault that as there’s no hidden extras or a person doing they survey and coming up with a figure off the top of their head.
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According to Heat Geek, my property isn’ eligible for a BUS grant. Out of interest, I’d like to find out why.
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F'kin 'ell! How big is your house!? Seriously, I got a quote in Sweden for a bore hole thermal pump with installation for about 13K (at 25% VAT) so there's a lot of mark up in that price.
An air-water pump will last about 10-15 years, so the price needs to come down to make it viable.
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Well according to the site about 245 sq m, I think it gets this from the EPC cert. Probably would be described as a large family home.
Quotes for ground sourced heat pumps, which i have looked into in the UK, are astronomical.
Heat Geeks quoted me an estimated £12,371 for a heat Pump installation.
Octopus Energy confirmed a fixed price quote of £3,288 for a heat pump installation.
There’s something going on with heat pump installation prices. 2 companies can’t be £9000 apart, can they?
Octopus Energy may have included the Government heat Pump grant of £7,500, whilst Heat Geeks definitely didn’t?
Straight forward question. Is this a good deal?
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PS. I need to look into the annual savings.
Octopus Energy.
Based on available property information, we think a 7-panel system with A Giv-Energy 5.2kWh Battery would be a great fit for your home
Your quote includes everything you need to begin generating your own clean, green electrons at home, and save money on your energy bills in the process!
- 7x JA Solar 435w panels
- A Giv-Energy 5.2kWh Battery
- A Giv-Energy Hybrid Inverter
- Installation on a Single Aspect roof
- Bird-Netting as standard
- All electrical components required to complete the install
- All scaffolding, delivery and labour costs
PS. I need to look into the annual savings.
Legacy boilers!
(The funny thing is that is the actual technical term now, to get an exemption from the ban)
So.
From the start of July to the beginning of December, my latest bill is due this week, I have spent £390 on electricity. The next 3 winter electricity bills will be in the region of £270, give or take? The electricity bills should start coming down after that as days are lighter and warmer. There is going to be an energy price drop in April. I’ve also bought a more energy efficient washing machine and heat pump tumble dryer. After that the next 3 bills go into spring and summer. £150 give or take? Guessing, the total electricity bill for the year could be in the region of £810. If £810 was replicated every year it would take me 10 years to get my solar panel quote of £8100 back. I haven’t included any spare electricity going back to the national grid, which is 15p kWh. Which could be in £1+ a day? £30 a month? £360 a year, depending on the autumn and winter months. £3600 over 10 years. All the figures are hypothetical over the 10 year period.
From the start of July to the beginning of December, my latest bill is due this week, I have spent £390 on electricity. The next 3 winter electricity bills will be in the region of £270, give or take? The electricity bills should start coming down after that as days are lighter and warmer. There is going to be an energy price drop in April. I’ve also bought a more energy efficient washing machine and heat pump tumble dryer. After that the next 3 bills go into spring and summer. £150 give or take? Guessing, the total electricity bill for the year could be in the region of £810. If £810 was replicated every year it would take me 10 years to get my solar panel quote of £8100 back. I haven’t included any spare electricity going back to the national grid, which is 15p kWh. Which could be in £1+ a day? £30 a month? £360 a year, depending on the autumn and winter months. £3600 over 10 years. All the figures are hypothetical over the 10 year period.
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Bit better payback that the heat pump, but you are assuming you generate enough in the summer to offset the use in the winter. When I did mine it was nearer to 13yrs payback but we do have one electric car (waiting to be called a **** by @Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese )now so it may be a bit better. Solar panels should last a good 15-20yrs albeit that they do degrade slightly over time. Battery at 10yrs might be down to 80% max capacity but still useful.
Would you do it, Kompany Car?
The only issue is, I’d have to take out a loan. That’s an extra £800-£1000. :-(
Also. Battery VAT is going to be 0% from February.
bluethrunthru
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Just saw this on our local news
Just been thinking about a heat pump again after seeing the Government are now giving grants of up to £7,500 towards a heat pump and heat pump installation. Ran it through Octopus Energy and I’m eligible for the full grant. I’m going to get a quote for a heat pump and solar panels from Octopus Energy. Once I’ve got the quote I’m going to sit down and crunch the numbers, cost > savings > returns = £
There’s a new generation of heat pumps. The first was great except that they did not work if the air temp was zero or below. Also there is a question of the resulting flow temp being too low. You need to check performance of the system suggested.
I’m a late adopter of new tech, as weaknesses are solved. Switching to electricity soon to replace my gas lighting.
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