The one bright spark I read today was the Sikh gentleman shaking hands with several protesters in Southampton and speaking with them about his disgust that someone of his faith could murder a young lad in cold blood with not a hint of aggression from either side, maybe there's some hope for humanity yet.
Sorry but if that was marginally negligent I wouldn’t want to see gross negligence.Think this is a bit of a witch-hunt against these coppers. Think the coppers on the scene were marginally negligent, but no more. Certainly not reckless.
Coppers have to deal with he said/she said scenarios all the time. Sometimes they are going to get it wrong when making an ex tempore decision.
Doesn’t mean the choice they make is malicious or racist. Just a snapshot evaluation.
And haven’t we all faltered in that way from time to time?
It was an error of judgement rather than negligence.Sorry but if that was marginally negligent I wouldn’t want to see gross negligence.
Weren’t you in the wait for the enquiry camp last night? What changed?It was an error of judgement rather than negligence.
You say a right-wing fringe of about 250–1,000 people turned up as if it were something inconsequential, Yet in a country of 70 million its highly likely that Farage will be voted in at the next election.We have to remember that this is the norm, not the exception.
Farage, Robinson et al put out the rallying cry yesterday and 250-1000 people showed up to cause trouble in a country of 70,000,000 and a City with 1,500,000 in the metro area.
We cannot be tricked by the extensive media coverage into thinking this is anything other than a tiny, violent, far right fringe of mostly the same faces that turn up at every one of these events.
The way the victims of the grooming gang scandal were treated is a far more accurate example of such policing.I think there is a link to the Hillsborough disaster with this. Hillsborough happened because the police were conditioned to believe that all football fans were hooligans. Everyone. So the police failed to act quick enough because they were dealing with caged animals rather than people being crushed alive.
The police today are seemingly conditioned to avoid being called racist at all costs. The 'white privilege' maniacs have seemingly polluted common sense to the extent that it needs the death of an innocent young man to bring everyone back to their senses.
To be fair to the police (and now I know a few more facts about this than when I last posted) there was no racial element to the attack, but one was introduced by the perpetrator as an attempt at mitigation. This rather than any sort of two tier policing or rampant wokeism is what caused them to respond inappropriately re the victim. It also created a bandwagon for farage/yaxley Lennon to jump on.I think there is a link to the Hillsborough disaster with this. Hillsborough happened because the police were conditioned to believe that all football fans were hooligans. Everyone. So the police failed to act quick enough because they were dealing with caged animals rather than people being crushed alive.
The police today are seemingly conditioned to avoid being called racist at all costs. The 'white privilege' maniacs have seemingly polluted common sense to the extent that it needs the death of an innocent young man to bring everyone back to their senses.
Posters spend so much time defending a side that it never registers that sometimes both sides are wrong.Bar the victim and his family, no one else has come out of this well. The murderer most of all, but his family seem to have conspired to pervert the course of justice.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but the police don't appear to have handled this well initially. It sometimes does seem that police forces are more sensitive to accusations of racism than doing their job without fear or favour. But, on the other hand, there's seemingly evidence that police can be racist. It's about striking the right balance and i'm not sure our police forces are doing that properly currently. I'm sure the officers involved are wishing they'd done things differently.
Then there's the appalling people like Farage & Yaxley-Lennon who are determined to make political capital out of this. More police officers injured due to them trying to further their racist agenda. We saw similar with the airport assault case. Justice can be imperfect but it's a damn sight better than mob rule.
Just fucking let the appropriate authorities get on with it.
Very true and it's a point I've made before. There's so much confirmation bias in here and on wider social media.Posters spend so much time defending a side that it never registers that sometimes both sides are wrong.
It's a battle no one will ever win but they will fight until their last breath takes them.Very true and it's a point I've made before. There's so much confirmation bias in here and on wider social media.
I based that on what the judge said in his summing up - https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdfWeren’t you in the wait for the enquiry camp last night? What changed?
The family are now known to be known to the police prior to this, in the context of weapon possession allegations. Neighbours are also said to have reported an attack to them at the same time the brother phoned things in. Were the officers told this?
The handcuffing, probably as heinous as the “I don’t think you have” comment also doesn’t appear to be compliant with relevant policy.
Negligence on the part of the police definitely cannot be ruled out.
There is absolutely no way that police have been trained to ignore a white boy saying he’s been stabbed for fear of being called a racist.I think there is a link to the Hillsborough disaster with this. Hillsborough happened because the police were conditioned to believe that all football fans were hooligans. Everyone. So the police failed to act quick enough because they were dealing with caged animals rather than people being crushed alive.
The police today are seemingly conditioned to avoid being called racist at all costs. The 'white privilege' maniacs have seemingly polluted common sense to the extent that it needs the death of an innocent young man to bring everyone back to their senses.
Old bigots who piss and moan about everything don’t tend to go to riots, so you’ve def got a point. Farage knows his rhetoric appeals to these people and that’s why he’s happy to sink to such depths.You say a right-wing fringe of about 250–1,000 people turned up as if it were something inconsequential, Yet in a country of 70 million its highly likely that Farage will be voted in at the next election.
I know what you are saying but police aren't doctors either.I'm no doctor but "stabbed and struggling to breathe" seems pretty serious.