Homeless people/addiction.

Bill Walker said:
They are seen as pathetic lazy trash who should "get a grip" "show some backbone". etc etc.
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Bill,

I expected more of you.

Given those quotes are direct references to words I used ABOUT A MAN TURNING TO GOING TO THE PUB AND DRINKING EVERY NIGHT AS A REASONABLE COURSE OF ACTION…

“who could sit at home every night alone ?”
(Your words)

…I take offence at the implied characterization of me ever stating any such person being “pathetic lazy trash” (once again, your words).

Sadly, I responded to your initial “radio story” with honest observations of THE STORY YOU TOLD.

Clearly, reading comprehension is not what it should be, because not only was the initial story then twisted by individuals, but my own words were twisted.

I remained engaged, explained myself, and even had a family member reach out on here to discuss these issues we have experienced within our own family.

I have been forthright, honest, and shown compassion and empathy for those with mental illness. However, the “crime” I committed was DARING to say that a grown man who effed his personal life up should have made a better choice than seeking his solace “down the pub, drowning his sorrows.”

I stand by that, based on the story YOU TOLD, not the many and varied personal stories that were overlaid on the initial post and which then became a blunt object with which to harangue.

I get it…this is the internet and almost anything goes, but the level of INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY on display has been surprising.

I thought you were better than that throwaway, yet very pointed, closing line, in an attempt to elevate what was, for all intents and purposes, a pathetic story that happens every day in every industrialized society in the world.

pathetic​

adjective​

pa·thet·ic pə-ˈthe-tik

1
: having a capacity to move one to either compassionate or contemptuous pity
2
: marked by sorrow or melancholy : SAD
3
: pitifully inferior or inadequate
the restaurant's pathetic service
4
: ABSURD, LAUGHABLE


-/-/-/-/

I’m using definition #2, while you started out preferring #1, but are now preferring to mischaracterize #2 as #3, which is, ironically, also #3.

Thanks for the empathetic and compassionate response! Didn’t realize you were just part of the mob.


mob​

1 of 2

noun​

ˈmäb

1
: a large and disorderly crowd of people
especially : one bent on riotous or destructive action
2
informal : a large number of people
a mob of shoppers clogged the aisles
a team greeted by mobs of fans
3
: a criminal set : GANG
especially, often capitalized : MAFIA sense 1
a member of the Mob
a mob informant
4
old-fashioned : the common people : MASSES
5
chiefly Australia : a flock, drove, or herd of animals

-/-/-/

Lest there be any mischacterization of that word, I’m using the term as in #2, with a splash of #1 for good measure.

Wouldn’t want to be mischaracterized as using definitions #3 or #4, or in your case #5.
 
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ChicagoBlue said:
Bill,

I expected more of you.

Given those quotes are direct references to words I used ABOUT A MAN TURNING TO GOING TO THE PUB AND DRINKING EVERY NIGHT AS A REASONABLE COURSE OF ACTION…

“who could sit at home every night alone ?”
(Your words)

…I take offence at the implied characterization of me ever stating any such person being “pathetic lazy trash” (once again, your words).

Sadly, I responded to your initial “radio story” with honest observations of THE STORY YOU TOLD.

Clearly, reading comprehension is not what it should be, because not only was the initial story then twisted by individuals, but my own words were twisted.

I remained engaged, explained myself, and even had a family member reach out on here to discuss these issues we have experienced within our own family.

I have been forthright, honest, and shown compassion and empathy for those with mental illness. However, the “crime” I committed was DARING to say that a grown man who effed his personal life up should have made a better choice than seeking his solace “down the pub, drowning his sorrows.”

I stand by that, based on the story YOU TOLD, not the many and varied personal stories that were overlaid on the initial post and which then became a blunt object with which to harangue.

I get it…this is the internet and almost anything goes, but the level of INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY on display has been surprising.

I thought you were better than that throwaway, yet very pointed, closing line, in an attempt to elevate what was, for all intents and purposes, a pathetic story that happens every day in every industrialized society in the world.

pathetic​

adjective​

pa·thet·ic pə-ˈthe-tik

1
: having a capacity to move one to either compassionate or contemptuous pity
2
: marked by sorrow or melancholy : SAD
3
: pitifully inferior or inadequate
the restaurant's pathetic service
4
: ABSURD, LAUGHABLE


-/-/-/-/

I’m using definition #2, while you started out preferring #1, but are now preferring to mischaracterize #2 as #3, which is, ironically, also #3.

Thanks for the empathetic and compassionate response! Didn’t realize you were just part of the mob.


mob​

1 of 2

noun​

ˈmäb

1
: a large and disorderly crowd of people
especially : one bent on riotous or destructive action
2
informal : a large number of people
a mob of shoppers clogged the aisles
a team greeted by mobs of fans
3
: a criminal set : GANG
especially, often capitalized : MAFIA sense 1
a member of the Mob
a mob informant
4
old-fashioned : the common people : MASSES
5
chiefly Australia : a flock, drove, or herd of animals

-/-/-/

Lest there be any mischacterization of that word, I’m using the term as in #2, with a splash of #1 for good measure.

Wouldn’t want to be mischaracterized as using definitions #3 or #4, or in your case #5.
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Kin ell.
 
Two Gun Bob said:

Kin ell​

Northern English slang/shorted version of 'Fucking Hell'. Used to show annoyance/surprise.
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Levity
Levity Was Once a Scientific Term

Levity originally was thought to be a physical force exactly like gravity but pulling in the opposite direction, like the helium in a balloon. As recently as the 19th century, scientists were still arguing about its existence. Today levity refers only to lightness in manner. To stern believers of some religious faiths, levity is often regarded as almost sinful. But the word, like its synonym frivolity, now has an old-fashioned ring to it and is usually used only half-seriously.

-/-/-/

It is appreciated, considering how dark this all got!

:-)
 
dronefromsector7G said:
This is taken from the OP:

“and he finds that the booze relieves a lot of the way he is suffering mentally with depression. He starts drinking at home, result, alcoholism brought on by mental illness.”


It seems to me that he was already depressed when he started to booze every night. Anyone disagree?
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Of course he was suffering with depression. And probably anxiety for his worthless future. The main reasons for depression you listed in an earlier post. Especially the low self esteem. Feeling useless.
He'd lost everything he loved, his kids his wife. That is a massive thing.
He medicated himself with booze after the depression set in, it helped. It's very very common. Poor bugger.
 
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ChicagoBlue said:
Bill,

I expected more of you.

Given those quotes are direct references to words I used ABOUT A MAN TURNING TO GOING TO THE PUB AND DRINKING EVERY NIGHT AS A REASONABLE COURSE OF ACTION…

“who could sit at home every night alone ?”
(Your words)

…I take offence at the implied characterization of me ever stating any such person being “pathetic lazy trash” (once again, your words).

Sadly, I responded to your initial “radio story” with honest observations of THE STORY YOU TOLD.

Clearly, reading comprehension is not what it should be, because not only was the initial story then twisted by individuals, but my own words were twisted.

I remained engaged, explained myself, and even had a family member reach out on here to discuss these issues we have experienced within our own family.

I have been forthright, honest, and shown compassion and empathy for those with mental illness. However, the “crime” I committed was DARING to say that a grown man who effed his personal life up should have made a better choice than seeking his solace “down the pub, drowning his sorrows.”

I stand by that, based on the story YOU TOLD, not the many and varied personal stories that were overlaid on the initial post and which then became a blunt object with which to harangue.

I get it…this is the internet and almost anything goes, but the level of INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY on display has been surprising.

I thought you were better than that throwaway, yet very pointed, closing line, in an attempt to elevate what was, for all intents and purposes, a pathetic story that happens every day in every industrialized society in the world.

pathetic​

adjective​

pa·thet·ic pə-ˈthe-tik

1
: having a capacity to move one to either compassionate or contemptuous pity
2
: marked by sorrow or melancholy : SAD
3
: pitifully inferior or inadequate
the restaurant's pathetic service
4
: ABSURD, LAUGHABLE


-/-/-/-/

I’m using definition #2, while you started out preferring #1, but are now preferring to mischaracterize #2 as #3, which is, ironically, also #3.

Thanks for the empathetic and compassionate response! Didn’t realize you were just part of the mob.


mob​

1 of 2

noun​

ˈmäb

1
: a large and disorderly crowd of people
especially : one bent on riotous or destructive action
2
informal : a large number of people
a mob of shoppers clogged the aisles
a team greeted by mobs of fans
3
: a criminal set : GANG
especially, often capitalized : MAFIA sense 1
a member of the Mob
a mob informant
4
old-fashioned : the common people : MASSES
5
chiefly Australia : a flock, drove, or herd of animals

-/-/-/

Lest there be any mischacterization of that word, I’m using the term as in #2, with a splash of #1 for good measure.

Wouldn’t want to be mischaracterized as using definitions #3 or #4, or in your case #5.
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Mate, I haven't argued with you, your entitled to your opinion. I haven't thrown any shit at you. I haven't called you a heartless bastard or any other "wrath"
But, I do wonder what makes you tick sometimes and your reaction to this poor man's downfall. Maybe you were just looking for an argument/debate ? I don't know.

Earlier on you said you were "done" with this subject...and yet here you are.

If you reply to this with another essay I won't respond, there's just no point arguing with you on this subject. I just agree to disagree (very strongly) with you. But, as I say, you are entitled to your opinion.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Every night?

Errrrrr….billions of people who don’t wallow in self-pity?

All of a sudden, it becomes depression brought on by mental illness, so (conveniently) he just can’t help himself?

I’m sure I’ll get the wrath of BM for this, but what a sob story!

Show some backbone, get on with LIFE, and find yourself someone else, somewhere else, and do yourself a favor!

I’m sorry it ended in tragedy, but whodathunkit, eh?! Became a self-fulfilling prophecy once it became “well, who WOULDN’T go to the pub every night to drown their sorrows?” and that became OK!

It’s not!

Get a grip, stand up, be the master of your own ship.

Now, if you’d started with “this fella was a manic depressive and had a drinking problem, so his wife left him for another bloke,” I might have felt like “If only he’d got some help, maybe he could have managed his illness,” but it sounds all so self-absorbed!
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Cunty post.
 
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