Homeless

No I wasn’t talking about empathy, you’ve just brought emotions into it.

I was specifically talking about what causes them to be there.

There’s actually a geezer selling the big issue on king street and I always give him loose change if I’ve got it.
someone gave you a long list of causes as did i yesterday i think it was,unless someone asks every single homeless person why they are there you won't get stats but there are plenty of progs and news features talking to them knocking about,i know for a fact there are a lot of forces homeless,a lot from the falklands and i'm sure the wars since,it's your decision how and what you give them or see them at all
 
You’ve always got a choice.

I’m not one of those that says “fuck all addicts it’s their own fault” but I’m also not in the camp of saying they bear absolutely no responsibility, because they fucking do.

Well, yeah. But this 'you've always got a choice' thing is a bit daft. We make decisions but sometimes there isn't much choice. Are there people whose begging lifestyle suits them? Probably. Are there pretending crooks out there? Definitely.
 
I was in Chicago once and walked out of a pizzeria with a to go box. A homeless person asked me for some change. I offered the rest of the pizza to him. His response was “what’s on it?” When I told him he said “no thanks”.

Thanks to him, I only offer food or beverage now.

But I still donate to local charities.

I don't like pineapple.
 
someone gave you a long list of causes as did i yesterday i think it was,unless someone asks every single homeless person why they are there you won't get stats but there are plenty of progs and news features talking to them knocking about,i know for a fact there are a lot of forces homeless,a lot from the falklands and i'm sure the wars since,it's your decision how and what you give them or see them at all

Those may cover every homeless person correct but it doesn’t mean the reasons are evenly spread.

I’m not even saying drug addicts don’t deserve help, that would be ridiculous.

I’m just saying those on here that blame society in every occasion are ridiculous.

If you’ve ended up homeless because youre a drug addict then it’s your fault.
 
every country in the EU is in the middle of a homelessness crisis except Finland. They set up a housing first project in which they gave homeless people permanent housing and needs-based support. They have all but eradicated rough sleeping so it can be done and it's a scheme being looked at by many other countries. It's a national disgrace that we have so many people living on the streets here.
 
All of these are supported to some extent, I understand how people end up living in temporary accommodation and shelters etc. But there’s surely enough out there so you don’t have to literally sleep on the streets?
you're not getting it.

it's a mind-set thing, a sense of failure, shame and embarrassment. you KNOW there is help, you KNOW family would take you in, you just don't have the capacity to put the cogs in place to recover. its becomes a never ending circle of self neglect. so you play it safe, you don't have to answer to anyone you just exsist in your own world. regardless of how harsh that world is.
 
you're not getting it.

it's a mind-set thing, a sense of failure, shame and embarrassment. you KNOW there is help, you KNOW family would take you in, you just don't have the capacity to put the cogs in place to recover. its becomes a never ending circle of self neglect. so you play it safe, you don't have to answer to anyone you just exsist in your own world. regardless of how harsh that world is.

So what’s the answer?
 
So what’s the answer?
biggie that mate. I don't know, I'd love to fix it for our city.
I am not having a go but whilst people use the words" it's their own fault" we have no chance of making any headway.
we could go down the line of cutting Trident, foreign aid aid etc and invest in our streets but like I say its a biggie.

I posted on here I few years ago about the "rock bottom" I reached, no alcohol, no drugs just a collapse of a person who was once flying high. ok I came out of it but believe me my family never got wind of it until I could face them. they still have no idea.
 
biggie that mate. I don't know, I'd love to fix it for our city.
I am not having a go but whilst people use the words" it's their own fault" we have no chance of making any headway.
we could go down the line of cutting Trident, foreign aid aid etc and invest in our streets but like I say its a biggie.

I posted on here I few years ago about the "rock bottom" I reached, no alcohol, no drugs just a collapse of a person who was once flying high. ok I came out of it but believe me my family never got wind of it until I could face them. they still have no idea.

Fair enough.

I’m certainly not one of the blaming every homeless person brigade, I just don’t agree that it’s always society’s fault, to me it’s a bit of both and then the factor of some people not being able to beat their demons.

Living and working in town and being stuck in the bubble of your own day-to-day finances I feel like there’s barely anything I can do apart from giving the odd bit of change, which I do to big issue sellers.

Fair play for opening up about your own issues, looking back do you feel there was a chance you could have actually become homeless?
 
Fair enough.

I’m certainly not one of the blaming every homeless person brigade, I just don’t agree that it’s always society’s fault, to me it’s a bit of both and then the factor of some people not being able to beat their demons.

Living and working in town and being stuck in the bubble of your own day-to-day finances I feel like there’s barely anything I can do apart from giving the odd bit of change, which I do to big issue sellers.

Fair play for opening up about your own issues, looking back do you feel there was a chance you could have actually become homeless?
I was homeless once.....luckily I had my car to sleep in.....not a great experience washing in the toilets at work and having a bad neck from the car
 
Fair enough.

I’m certainly not one of the blaming every homeless person brigade, I just don’t agree that it’s always society’s fault, to me it’s a bit of both and then the factor of some people not being able to beat their demons.

Living and working in town and being stuck in the bubble of your own day-to-day finances I feel like there’s barely anything I can do apart from giving the odd bit of change, which I do to big issue sellers.

Fair play for opening up about your own issues, looking back do you feel there was a chance you could have actually become homeless?


Nobody ..... but nobody.... who was sane .... would make themselves deliberately homeless....
 
Fair enough.

I’m certainly not one of the blaming every homeless person brigade, I just don’t agree that it’s always society’s fault, to me it’s a bit of both and then the factor of some people not being able to beat their demons.

Living and working in town and being stuck in the bubble of your own day-to-day finances I feel like there’s barely anything I can do apart from giving the odd bit of change, which I do to big issue sellers.

Fair play for opening up about your own issues, looking back do you feel there was a chance you could have actually become homeless?
I was homeless but I found a hostel in Ashton. I ducked and dived both before and during that time. I consider. Myself a confident and strong character but for the life of me I couldn't ' stop what was happening to me. Anyway. Just saying it can happen to anyone.
The best bit I suppose is the recovery and where I am now. That episode taught me so much.

You think you are safe, you think you are untouchable, well you aren't.
Next time you, or anyone, walks through town take a second to count your blessings.
I do.
 
I was homeless but I found a hostel in Ashton. I ducked and dived both before and during that time. I consider. Myself a confident and strong character but for the life of me I couldn't ' stop what was happening to me. Anyway. Just saying it can happen to anyone.
The best bit I suppose is the recovery and where I am now. That episode taught me so much.

You think you are safe, you think you are untouchable, well you aren't.
Next time you, or anyone, walks through town take a second to count your blessings.
I do.

What many don't realise is the real fact that divorce for many men is often a one way road to life on the streets.

I've been divorced but was lucky in that my parents were both alive and i had a home and bed to go to when most in need but for many, they have fuck all and as a single men they are literally at the very bottom of any council list when it comes to a home or flat and they have no option but to hit the streets.
 
What many don't realise is the real fact that divorce for many men is often a one way road to life on the streets.

I've been divorced but was lucky in that my parents were both alive and i had a home and bed to go to when most in need but for many, they have fuck all and as a single men they are literally at the very bottom of any council list when it comes to a home or flat and they have no option but to hit the streets.
on the money.
 
What many don't realise is the real fact that divorce for many men is often a one way road to life on the streets.

I've been divorced but was lucky in that my parents were both alive and i had a home and bed to go to when most in need but for many, they have fuck all and as a single men they are literally at the very bottom of any council list when it comes to a home or flat and they have no option but to hit the streets.
Many don't realise this ..especially those with supportive families
 

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