Hours you work?

[Tuearts right boot]

Tired old cliche i'm afraid.

Do the millions who spend 40-50 hours a week for minimum wage not work hard because many of them can't afford the good things in life.

I didn't mention 'work hard'.....You can work hard for very little money or you can work smart for a fortune.

 

[lust overlord]

Tired old cliche i'm afraid.

Do the millions who spend 40-50 hours a week for minimum wage not work hard because many of them can't afford the good things in life.

Depends what you class as good things.
Time spent with loved ones?
Luxury items?

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

When not travelling I work around 40 hours per week, now home office based.

Travel to visit customers or for internal meetings about 40% of the time and will do 12 hr days whilst I do it. I work in senior management for a large American company that has been bought recently by a much larger American company. The pay and benefits are v. good.

Since I've worked in commercial roles I've always traveled significant amounts so it doesn't really bother me anymore

 

[NeilYoungIsBack]

Just started my own business being going for a year, so still in murky waters.

Entrepreneurship is terrifying stuff, not for the feint hearted.

We might be operating in the same field (economics consultancy). A very big upside is that you can choose your clients and offload the ones that annoy or wont listen to advice. I was never able to do that when I was an employee.

I've been trading for 6 years now, and its the best thing I ever did

 

[bluethrunthru]

True to an extent but look at countries like Sweden and Denmark. Work a lot less, yet have much better social and public services and allegedly a much higher quality of life.

Brits love to laugh at the French but again they seem to have a better balance than us. Money isn't everything yet sadly it's the principle factor in pretty much every political decision made in this country.

they don't have our stupid housing costs and we subsidise their rail fares and utility costs lol !! Sad fact is many would call the French ( and Spanish and Italians etc ) lazy. Maybe they just have got it right?

 

[blueinsa]

Depends what you class as good things.
Time spent with loved ones?
Luxury items?

For a lot of people it would mean being in a position to buy your own home.

Time spent with loved ones is incredibly important but for a working family on minimum wage and already struggling to make ends meet, sitting at home enjoying family time isnt an option they can afford.

 

[lust overlord]

they don't have our stupid housing costs and we subsidise their rail fares and utility costs lol !! Sad fact is many would call the French ( and Spanish and Italians etc ) lazy. Maybe they just have got it right?

Ha.
We needed a replacement Italian part for the plant I work at last August.
Told it would be 3 weeks before we'd get it as the manufacturers had shut down for holidays for a month.
I spoke recently,to an Italian specialist that was involved in a project on the site I work at.
He was laughing at the amount of hours the British and Germans put in.

 

[stonerblue]

I'm down to 22 hours a week in the shop. Sixteen minutes commuting and a couple of hours paperwork and buying.

 

[bluethrunthru]

The scandis have it right. Unfortunately we are becoming more and more like America except we can't match their wages!

different societies and values - Americans champion "winners" - usually judged in terms of money. In the UK we have the good old class system and those of the "higher orders" see no reason to adequately reward the lower classes who exist solely to service their needs in their view.

 

[stonerblue]

Interesting doc' on this subject was on the beeb this week. Would link the vid but i've gotta go to fucking work.