How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[Gabriel]

Would like to see a breakdown of the foreign students that have been granted visas. At 277,000, they actually constitute the largest number of ‘immigrants’, and they all need somewhere to stay, usually in city centres, and they all use public services. Granted, some of those coming to the UK will have been students returning after their courses were shunted online during the pandemic, but I strongly suspect that the universities have been taking more and more postgraduate students (who can bring dependents) from India and China. They pay top dollar and that swells the university’s coffers.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

Seems we’ve got the worst of all worlds. A large number of migrants that we have to pay for that do not have permission to work and a large number of job vacancies traditionally filled by immigrants. Seems there should be quite an easy solution to this but it appears to be beyond the government to work it out.

They never had any intention to work it out.
There are far more votes in creating a problem with immigration than there are in sorting it out fairly and sensibly.
It really doesn’t matter if you don’t sort it as long as you’ve been seen to be tough against the perceived enemy- in this case brown people in boats- a while back it was Brussels bureaucrats and we got a wonderfully effective brexit to show them who was boss - and now Mick Lynch and other trade unionists have emerged as public enemy No.1 - a existential threat to the British way of life.
But don’t worry folks - Rishi and sue-Ellen are here to save us as long as you vote for them, because - as the daily mail will tell us- they are the only ones fit and tough enough to govern and a coalition of chaos is just around the corner if you don’t.

 

[Gabriel]

If only he had actually gotten there on time, he’d have been able to reel off all the other benefits…

 

[Bodicoteblue]

If only he had actually gotten there on time, he’d have been able to reel off all the other benefits…

……you’d think he would have asked to at least delay the news so he could amaze and astonish the nation with the revelation of impending riches and untold wealth and well-being about to descend on us unworthy plebs.
Maybe he had something else to do.

 

[Gabriel]

……you’d think he would have asked to at least delay the news so he could amaze and astonish the nation with the revelation of impending riches and untold wealth and well-being about to descend on us unworthy plebs.
Maybe he had something else to do.

I’m yet to hear an interviewer drill down and ask a Minister to give specific details of how much Brexit has improved the economy. They’re still asking about ‘what benefits’ and not about ‘how much’. Ministers will say it’s far too early to say, of course, but it’s actually not, particularly when independent bodies are already pointing out the mounting costs. As I say, we need to hear more ‘how much?’ and then relate that to the lack of money to do other things in the UK.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

Yep…obfuscation on what’s allegedly been achieved (or not) and nebulous guesswork on any future benefits, and yet no interviewer taking advantage of all the open goals in front of them.

 

[Vic]

I’m yet to hear an interviewer drill down and ask a Minister to give specific details of how much Brexit has improved the economy. They’re still asking about ‘what benefits’ and not about ‘how much’. Ministers will say it’s far too early to say, of course, but it’s actually not, particularly when independent bodies are already pointing out the mounting costs. As I say, we need to hear more ‘how much?’ and then relate that to the lack of money to do other things in the UK.

He was asked what B has done for business and went first for freeing farmers from the CAP. But there's precious little certainty yet about what replaces CAP money. Then he burbled about other fringe sector stuff.

 

[Gabriel]

Yep…obfuscation on what’s allegedly been achieved (or not) and nebulous guesswork on any future benefits, and yet no interviewer taking advantage of all the open goals in front of them.

There’s also a shortening window in which interviewers will actually be able to pin things on Ministers such as Gove. Everyone basically knows that the Conservatives will be hammered in the next General Election and the open goals are only going to become unmissable, even for the BBC, especially when the threat to its funding starts to abate.

 

[Gabriel]

He was asked what B has done for business and went first for freeing farmers from the CAP. But there's precious little certainty yet about what replaces CAP money. Then he burbled about other fringe sector stuff.

Yes, the usual fluff and nothing of substance. No trade deal with your biggest ally so now you scramble around Africa looking to cosy up with countries you screwed for centuries, countries that are more likely to get in bed with China or even Russia, still.

The real problems for the Conservatives will come in the spring, at the very latest, when unemployment starts to mount sharply. It was at 1.64 million in 2016 but that figure might even be eclipsed as people have to tighten their belts and businesses start going to the wall. Employment and Unemployment have been two sides of the same coin they have relied on since Brexit.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Fishing. Remember that?