How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
I don't think we were on a winner either way round. Being in the EU was never gonna win us anything. And the EU were never gonna let us benefit by a fuckin' drachma once we were out, and making sure we were paying an overly-fair share by staying in!
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Either membership benefited the UK’s economy or it didn’t. If it didn’t, then Brexit will have demonstrable benefits over membership. It is a reasonably simple calculation.

I can list a few economic and scientific benefits of membership. No trade barriers. The legal right to live and work anywhere in Europe. The ERASMUS program. Being part of Horizon R&D program. Fruit and veg not on ration.

I cannot list any benefits of non-membership.

Ergo, by my calculation, membership is a benefit. Others may have a different take and they can argue that accordingly.
 
BobKowalski said:
Either membership benefited the UK’s economy or it didn’t. If it didn’t, then Brexit will have demonstrable benefits over membership. It is a reasonably simple calculation.

I can list a few economic and scientific benefits of membership. No trade barriers. The legal right to live and work anywhere in Europe. The ERASMUS program. Being part of Horizon R&D program. Fruit and veg not on ration.

I cannot list any benefits of non-membership.

Ergo, by my calculation, membership is a benefit. Others may have a different take and they can argue that accordingly.
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I could be persuaded, B!
 
BlueHammer85 said:
what was so detrimental about being in the EU ?
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One of the worst elements of the EU was going down a road where no one had the faintest idea what direction we were travelling in. The trade element is the obvious benefit and the reason why we wanted to join, but had someone suggested that forty odd years after joining there would be two parliaments to 'sort' it all out with expense sheets that make our own H of C look like paupers we might have thought twice, that's twice before joining!
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
One of the worst elements of the EU was going down a road where no one had the faintest idea what direction we were travelling in. The trade element is the obvious benefit and the reason why we wanted to join, but had someone suggested that forty odd years after joining there would be two parliaments to 'sort' it all out with expense sheets that make our own H of C look like paupers we might have thought twice, that's twice before joining!
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If only we'd had a veto so we could have prevented being carried along in a direction we didn't like.
 
Chris in London said:
If only we'd had a veto so we could have prevented being carried along in a direction we didn't like.
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How long did the veto last? I heard that voting was gonna be a majority vote. Has that come to pass yet or without the veto are countries just resorting to two fingering Brussels with stuff they don't like.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
One of the worst elements of the EU was going down a road where no one had the faintest idea what direction we were travelling in. The trade element is the obvious benefit and the reason why we wanted to join, but had someone suggested that forty odd years after joining there would be two parliaments to 'sort' it all out with expense sheets that make our own H of C look like paupers we might have thought twice, that's twice before joining!
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I actually preffered the laws and rules that the EU parliament voted in far better than I like those the les democratic Westminster one vote for. Which ones were the bad ones ?
 
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