How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[Didsbury Dave]

Labour don’t want to take the bull by horns and rule out rejoining the single market, to scared of alienating the red wall voters who swallowed the belief there would actually be some benefit for the country. It’s nearly half a decade since we exited the EU and there hasn’t been any plus points to it and non of our politicians are actually doing anything to make it work.

The taking back control of our borders they were sold clearly was a lie, all the potential new trade deals that haven’t happened yet will have guarantees of visas attached to them so even more filthy foreigners will be coming to the U.K. to keep the gammons frothing.

Nobody ever ever talks about the fact that immigration has gone through the foof since the referendum. Even that promise was a total lie. I posted about this before: the pubs in London used to be staffed by Europeans. Now they are staffed by Indians. It doesn't bother me but I bet Billy Barnsley would choke on his bitter if he found out.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

The elephant in the room is rejoining the single market isn’t just the best outcome long term, personally I feel it’s completely inevitable.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

The elephant in the room is rejoining the single market isn’t just the best outcome long term, personally I feel it’s completely inevitable.

Fully agree.

I'm planning a takeover of the Tory party to turn it into a centrist pro EU party. The tories have less than 200k members and they are dying off fast. As little as 150k people would be enough to seize control.

 

[BlueHammer85]

The elephant in the room is rejoining the single market isn’t just the best outcome long term, personally I feel it’s completely inevitable.

very slow realignment might be the best way, possible with Labour.

 

[Scottyboi]

Nobody ever ever talks about the fact that immigration has gone through the foof since the referendum. Even that promise was a total lie. I posted about this before: the pubs in London used to be staffed by Europeans. Now they are staffed by Indians. It doesn't bother me but I bet Billy Barnsley would choke on his bitter if he found out.

On the Sky interview last week with Rishi he was pulled up on this and he had no answer to it. ''yes the numbers are high and we need to get them down''.

 

[blueparrot]

We've had our letters today from our suppliers, with the increased costs due to Brexit import taxes. So that's a nice brexit benefit coming for our customers.

 

[west didsblue]

The elephant in the room is rejoining the single market isn’t just the best outcome long term, personally I feel it’s completely inevitable.

It will be done by stealth with a series of sector by sector deals spread over a few years so we end up de facto in the single market much like the Swiss arrangement. Obviously not as good as full EEA membership but we could probably be 90% there if the influence of the hardline Brexiteers is limited to the equivalent of being the noisy drunk in the pub telling everyone their favourite conspiracies.

 

[Vic]

The existing deal includes a review anyway so the Tories need to say what they'd do.

 

[bluethrunthru]

 

[Vic]

"One of the continual problems with Brexit has been the UK having a conversation with itself without thinking enough about what the EU might be prepared to accept,” Brunsden said.

Nevertheless, Brunsden noted that Labour’s more positive attitude towards the EU could foster greater trust between London and Brussels, which might help resolve more technical trade-related disputes.

“There are going to be situations where potential trade disputes arise – and trust between the two sides is going to matter,” he said.

Labour victory unlikely to restore pre-Brexit economic ties, experts say

A Labour victory in the UK general today (4 July) would likely not lead to a significant improvement in UK-EU trade ties in the near-term but could lay the foundations for deeper economic integration over the coming years, experts say.

www.euractiv.com