How does officiating improve?

[BlueHammer85]

But when making the wrong decision is considered better than making the right decision because it protects a ref, our priorities are totally wrong.

agree on this point

Kanes tackle for example, why can't they take action even now and give him the deserved ban for that challenge

 

[Henri Regnault]

VAR needs authority to review as many important calls as possible and needs to have the courage to interrupt the game as needed. VAR is too restrained. They're hiding behind "clear and obvious" to avoid video review too frequently.

We should also pay officials more and stop tolerating as much abuse so we can get more talented officials long-term. It's a tough job.

Personally of the mindset that they do a pretty good job and it all evens out at the end of the season. The Dippers are finally getting a taste of that medicine, for example.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Referees in football have the tools to deal with ill discipline. They can caution any player that shows dissent, by word or action, against any decision made by the referee. If they issued more cautions for dissent, players would accumulate the five cards required for a ban. They would miss a game. Their team might lose. They would soon learn to keep their mouths shut.

Ru has yellow cards (sin bin) for serious dissent. and moving penalties forward 10 yards for everything else. In football zero tolerance would have to be introduced at the start of the season and everyone would have to swallow a flurry of sending offs. Introducing a sin bin might be the answer.

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

Ru has yellow cards (sin bin) for serious dissent. and moving penalties forward 10 yards for everything else. In football zero tolerance would have to be introduced at the start of the season and everyone would have to swallow a flurry of sending offs. Introducing a sin bin might be the answer.

There would be a great howling and gnashing of teeth as we had when shirt pulling was clamped down on for all of about a month...and then back to shithouse normal cop-out mode.

For a sport that has so many toxic neanderthal attitudes to so many things I'm surprised the powers that be don't have more 'manly' resilience.

 

[Paladin]

Ru has yellow cards (sin bin) for serious dissent. and moving penalties forward 10 yards for everything else. In football zero tolerance would have to be introduced at the start of the season and everyone would have to swallow a flurry of sending offs. Introducing a sin bin might be the answer.

Sin bins you say?

 

[Paladin]

Sin bins you say?

I should have mentioned that this is only for lower levels of football.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

The way it is now referees who get into the elite PGMOL group are in a club, and a small one at that. They hang around too long, are too few in number, and so are under no real pressure. They also get too cosy with players, managers and clubs, again because they are in such a small pool. It cant be the case that assessors do not identify suitable talent in the lower groups and so have to keep the top 40 all the time. That top 40 cant be the best in the country consistently, that is nonsense. The answer has to be rotate them in and out, promote more from lower groups more often and ensure a standard is kept. This is also demonstrable by the very fact that there hasnt been a black referee for about 15 years. There is no way on gods green earth that there isnt a black referee out there that is better than most of the drips we have doing it now. It is a club, with a fancy acronym title.

 

[Franny 1234]

Make the var guy a independent person and not part of the same mates gang.
CTID

 

[dadnlad]

1. Stop Pigmol being a closed shop. Promote good refs demote shit ones.
2. Increase the fitness test and sack any that don't pass
3. Mike them up.
4 Make all clubs have screens, why are those 2 allowed to be different ?

FUCK OFF the match commander, who is hev what is his role ?

Then remember that Sky/Bt want controversy so they will forensically examine certain decisions but ignore others. It isn't always the refs that are the problem. The Kane challenge is more about who it was on rather than whether it was a red.

you can hear the match commander now " this game is boring lets make it more intresting for the viewer and betting companys "
someone on talkshite said they'll never let you hear the chat on incidents because ......he was interrupted sharpish, we can only guess the rest

 

[dadnlad]

The game is all about not pissing off the wrong people, so refs like Oliver are “No decision” refs.

The way it’s set up is “clear & obvious.” Accordingly, unless he thinks it’s a dead cert, 100%, nailed on decision, he doesn’t make it! The “No decision” is the LEAST CONTROVERSIAL CALL in the game. And, for it to be “wrong,” it has to be:

1) In the box
2) A red card offence

That’s it! Those are the big decisions!

And, he even gets a second chance to have a look IF the VAR is willing to put his neck out and tell Oliver he may have made a mistake, so check it for himself!

He broke the code on how to make onfield calls and use VAR early on, and is rewarded by being one of the English refs for UEFA.

It reminds me of Zinchenko’s handball last week…check to see if it should be a handball and penalty after ref’s “non-call.” VAR Check COULD say it WAS a handball, but the ONLY thing it is really checking us “was it in the box and thus a penalty?” It wasn’t in the box, but WAS a handball, so VAR ignores and the opposition lose a free kick on the edge of the box and Zin escapes a (minimum) yellow card!

VAR is not about correct refereeing, it is about correct BIG DECISIONS!

Same thing in Wolves vs Chelski. Kante’s arm is out, handles and blocks it as last man and player in behind. It’s a red card offence all day long, but ref does the “No decision,” and so unless VAR decides “You’ve made a clear and obvious error, go look for yourself” NOTHING HAPPENS!

And, I think in that game, VAR would have struggled, because TV Camera visibility was very poor!

I think EVERY potential penalty incident should be reviewed pitchside by match official at next deadball.

I think EVERY potential red card decision (whether a yellow is given first or not) should be reviewed pitchside.

I think a timekeeper should keep time, and every onfield stoppage (Free kick, issuing yellow card, injury) should be a stopped clock.

Ref blows whistle, indicates to timekeeper, EVERYONE can see time is stopped.

Corners, goal kicks and throw-ins leave time running, because they’re often taken quickly, but crackdown on time wasting.

Ref should be miked and all official game time communication is available to club benches in real time.

NFL refs have to make penalty calls TO THE ENTIRE CROWD VIA PA, so there’s no reason a PL ref couldn’t do the same on the big screen for fans! And, you’d see the quickest big screen installations in history at The Swamp and Klanfield! Still amazes me that they are not FORCED to have VAR screens installed! Coincidence???? Richest clubs with most istree but VAR waiver!?!?!?!

It all comes down to game is bent and refs are shit, with a few exceptions. Tbf to refs, the game is passing them by, too. They’re getting older as the game is getting quicker and more technical.

As an ex-player, I think you know the things that really piss you off in the game, but refs pick up on minutae no one cares about, or are persnickety about nothing then let things that help rile players up and create onfield hostility go without a word. They don’t seem to put the game into the PLAYERS perspective, only their own.

we'll be having BBQ in the car park waiting for the game to finish ;)