How does officiating improve?

Mike up the refs and the VAR official, then theres clarity for a start without the need of "silent grey areas".
Plus this would stop Ratboy making decisions for them on his commentary.

And while we're at it, stop players reffing the game themselves from the pitch.
If refs want more respect on it, then dish yellows out to those players that try to manipulate them, Bruno Fernandes would be stumped amongst others
 
domalino said:
Unfortunately the issue with refereeing is cultural, and it's not going to improve.

The sport and fans treats referees with contempt, with conspiracy theories abounding and abuse completely normalised. "The referee's a wanker" is possibly the best known chant in football. People laugh and congratulate managers or players who openly abuse referees or accuse them of corruption.

That contempt reaches the grassroots where there are fewer young referees than ever before because they keep getting abused and assaulted and quitting. Anyone teenager with anything better to do goes and does it after being spat at or punched by some 35 year old hungover twat.

Fewer grassroots referees mean you a shallower talent pool, which means fewer professional referees of the correct standard.

That's where all of the Premier League's problems begin. Mike Riley does everything from the perspective of protecting the referees that work for him, because they are an endangered speices. 2 top PL referees have recently quit because the abuse wasn't worth it. We have parachuted in an Australian to boost numbers.

Why don't retroactive fecisions happen? Because they don't want to publicly undermine referees by overruling them. Why do we have "clear and obvious error" bullshit? To protect the referees. Why don't we hear VAR/Referee conversations? To protect the referees. Why don't referees get demoted? Because there's no good options to promote.

There are some issues around the laws being written in a oblique way, but mostly the issue is that no one in their right mind would ever want to be a referee.

The sport and fans need to change the culture around referees and then we might attract better ones. I'd start by giving us the feed on their mic as per Rugby, and heavily fining every player who is abusive towards them.
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I think you make some excellent points. When I attend Premiership rugby, the relationship between refs and players is completely different. Good rugby referees coach as they officiate, and are always willing to admit out loud when they get a decision obviously wrong. That usually happens several times per game. It helps that most of the players have officiated at youth games etc. and know how difficult it is in such a technical sport. There is quite a lot of wriggle room with the ref often able to warn players that they are about to be penalised to give them a chance to stop doing what they are doing. Finally, only the team captains can question decisions and they always get an explanation (even if they don’t like it). Any other player is simply sent away.
 
what jenas said last night pretty much hit the nail on the head for me. Last week too many easy pens, so this week they all had a meeting and said they wont give any pens... Next week the decisions will be based upon what has happened this week.

VAR has ruined football imo. Its confused the situation and the die hard lovers of VAR will never admit it but football used to be better without it, we KNEW what a ref would decide bar the mistakes.... Nowdays we have "less mistakes" but no one has a fkin clue what is a handball, what is a foul, what is a penalty.

The ref is the only person who should be making calls, if he needs tech then let HIM use it, let him go to the monitor and he makes the JUDGEMENT. Its either that or VAR has to go.

Sorry quite angry about this shit and its supporters
 
Like most people...sack Mike Riley. This man is single-handedly destroying our national sport.
It seems like he is answerable to nobody. He makes the rules up as he goes along, he goes out on a limb to defend his cronies when they fuck up, he is protected by a veil of secrecy (fucking 'non-disclosures?'), in short he is nothing more than a dictator: a despot in every true sense of the word. If Riley wants a goal disallowed, that goal WILL be disallowed, and nobody is permitted to question his decision because they would be charged with bringing the game into disrepute.

It's all very well Shearer using the BBC as his own personal soapbox -and getting paid for it- but he's only saying what the rest of us have known for years, and nobody has listened. There has been no attempt to get pigmol to explain itself, to justify the decisions it has made, to explain why VAR is used extremely well in all other sports except football.


We know the game is bent, millions of football fans know the game is bent, but nobody in the media is going to put their pampered and overfed heads above the parapet and expose it for what is it - corruption. Shearer and his colleagues certainly wouldn't dare.
 
Timekeeper ensuring 35 or 40 minutes of actual football, this would end time wasting.

Manager gets two VAR challenges per match, if the challenge is correct then challenge is available again. If challenge is incorrect then it is lost.

Offside rule change, attacking player given the benefit unless there is clear gap between players.

Referee and lineman micced and all audio can be heard by viewers

Foreign referees and officials

A fair representation of all teams in media
 
Call the diving cheating faking wankers to account by naming and publicly shaming them every time.
 
Liverpool get some bad decisions stop the fucking world I mean yes I agree mate he decisions were terrible but they haven’t done bad over the years with fortunate ones . App they are more bothered about that decision yesterday but when ederson fouled the striker cancelo had already won the ball . They look knackered and now with the fa not cancelling the Christmas fixtures it’s even better .
 
What we need are consistency and courage.
If a foul is a foul in one match, then it is in another.
If a foul is a foul on the halfway line, it's one in the penalty area.
If it's a foul in the 49th minute, it's one in the first.
Referees need to have the guts to give a penalty in the last minute against Liverpool at Anfield, Rags at OT, or even City at the Etihad, if a penalty is the correct decision.
I also happen to think we need an orange card - for offences that are not quite red, or where a second yellow is unduly harsh, and maybe we should consider sin bins for 15 minutes too.
I would love to see refs miked up, as in Rugby, but I would be amazed if that ever happens.
Finally, we need a timekeeper, with time wasted added on. Even if a match then lasts 120 minutes.
 
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