How many people have Irish blood/desent on this site?

[Citysmith]

You said the bulk of Irish catholics supported acts of terrorism and if you believe this......what a world you live in.

By support (as I stated) meant they agreed with it and felt no remorse when the acts were carried out. Even some of the ones living and working in England.

BB2 let's clear things up one step at a time. I have not called or implied you are a rascist. I did ask you if you were and you said you were not. I am also interested if it was all Irish people you have little or no time for. Do you have no time for any Irish people who despise the IRA and all it's actions? Or do you tar every Irish Catholic person with the same brush?

You state that I think the bulk of the catholic Irish did support the acts of terrorism that took place on mainland Britain and against our troops during the troubles. By supporting that does not mean they gave money or killed anyone-I simply mean a general feeling of support.

What % do you mean by 'Bulk' and what evidence do you to support that Irish Catholics supported bombing in England?

 

[brooklandsblue2.0]

By support (as I stated) meant they agreed with it and felt no remorse when the acts were carried out. Even some of the ones living and working in England.

BB2 let's clear things up one step at a time. I have not called or implied you are a rascist. I did ask you if you were and you said you were not. I am also interested if it was all Irish people you have little or no time for. Do you have no time for any Irish people who despise the IRA and all it's actions? Or do you tar every Irish Catholic person with the same brush?

You state that I think the bulk of the catholic Irish did support the acts of terrorism that took place on mainland Britain and against our troops during the troubles. By supporting that does not mean they gave money or killed anyone-I simply mean a general feeling of support.

What % do you mean by 'Bulk' and what evidence do you to support that Irish Catholics supported bombing in England?

I am basing this on personal experience of meeting many "Irish" (although they and often their parents are born in england) people in Manchester have got pissed and starting singing rebel songs and get all secterian...... Thats my personal experience and I am yet to found a single one who hasn't been the same. If you're telling me I have it all wrong then Im willing to take this on board, but in my experience thats just not the case.

 

[1_barry_conlon]

BB2 let's clear things up one step at a time. I have not called or implied you are a rascist. I did ask you if you were and you said you were not. I am also interested if it was all Irish people you have little or no time for. Do you have no time for any Irish people who despise the IRA and all it's actions? Or do you tar every Irish Catholic person with the same brush?

You state that I think the bulk of the catholic Irish did support the acts of terrorism that took place on mainland Britain and against our troops during the troubles. By supporting that does not mean they gave money or killed anyone-I simply mean a general feeling of support.

What % do you mean by 'Bulk' and what evidence do you to support that Irish Catholics supported bombing in England?

I am basing this on personal experience of meeting many "Irish" (although they and often their parents are born in england) people in Manchester have got pissed and starting singing rebel songs and get all secterian...... Thats my personal experience and I am yet to found a single one who hasn't been the same. If you're telling me I have it all wrong then Im willing to take this on board, but in my experience thats just not the case.

You said earlier you were from Irish descent? Therefore you must be including yourself in the above statement as you state you've never met one who doesn't sing rebel songs or get all secterian...or is your family exempt from this, which if they are, is an amazing coincidence.

And for the record i have no Irish/celtic/gaelic whatever you want to call it, blood in me whatsoever.

 

[law74]

BB2 that might be your experience of exiled Irish now living in England (often of second or third generation but still retain some romantic ideal of their "homeland"), but growing up n Northern Ireland through the troubles, in my experience the vast majority of the ordinary working class catholics in Northern Ireland despised the terrorists as it was their streets that were being ruined in the riots, their estates that were being destroyed, their children that were being deproived of a normal childhood due to the risk of trouble if a Police car or an army patrol would appear.
While it could be argued that if they didnt like it they could have reported what they seen to the authorities, but ask the family of Jean mcConville who commited the heineous crime (in the eyes of some) of comforting a dying soldier, and as a result was kidknapped by the Provos and murdered in 1972, her body wasnt recovered for a christian burial for 31 years, if they would advise passing information about the IRA to the Police.

 

[brooklandsblue2.0]

I am basing this on personal experience of meeting many "Irish" (although they and often their parents are born in england) people in Manchester have got pissed and starting singing rebel songs and get all secterian...... Thats my personal experience and I am yet to found a single one who hasn't been the same. If you're telling me I have it all wrong then Im willing to take this on board, but in my experience thats just not the case.

You said earlier you were from Irish descent? Therefore you must be including yourself in the above statement as you state you've never met one who doesn't sing rebel songs or get all secterian...or is your family exempt from this, which if they are, is an amazing coincidence.

And for the record i have no Irish/celtic/gaelic whatever you want to call it, blood in me whatsoever.

I am from Irish descent in terms of my name. I think it'll be 3rd /4th /5th generation but we never looked into at as it's of no interest to any of us-we're english thats that. None of my family see themselves as Irish so I was not exposed to these attitudes at family do's-it was more being brought up around (like you stated) people who were like me 3/4th generation but kept banging on about Ireland and liked singing silly songs and shouting the odds.

As I said, I might have this all wrong but Im going off my own personal experience. when I find different I'll be big enough to come back here and apologise.

 

[Citysmith]

I am basing this on personal experience of meeting many "Irish" (although they and often their parents are born in england) people in Manchester have got pissed and starting singing rebel songs and get all secterian...... Thats my personal experience and I am yet to found a single one who hasn't been the same. If you're telling me I have it all wrong then Im willing to take this on board, but in my experience thats just not the case.

I'm making the point that you are tarring people with the same brush and writing off a nation because you have heard people singing rebel songs etc...

Each individual nation is made up of millions of people all with very differing opinions on millions of different subjects. Just check out this board at any given time of the day or night and you will see opinions ranging from A to Z.

The Irish are no different to this. If you go down any Med holiday in the summer you will see plenty of English pissed up and singing 'IngeeerLand' in their footy shirts and union jack swimming shorts the majority of them are tools but you wouldn't like to be tarred with the same brush as them? We are not about nations but individuals.

 

[AlexWilliamsGloves]

I am from Irish descent in terms of my name. I think it'll be 3rd /4th /5th generation but we never looked into at as it's of no interest to any of us-we're english thats that. None of my family see themselves as Irish so I was not exposed to these attitudes at family do's-it was more being brought up around (like you stated) people who were like me 3/4th generation but kept banging on about Ireland and liked singing silly songs and shouting the odds.

As I said, I might have this all wrong but Im going off my own personal experience. when I find different I'll be big enough to come back here and apologise.

So with this in mind, its actually the English you despise?
They dont sound like ANY Irish people i know

 

[poh]

I am from Irish descent in terms of my name. I think it'll be 3rd /4th /5th generation but we never looked into at as it's of no interest to any of us-we're english thats that. None of my family see themselves as Irish so I was not exposed to these attitudes at family do's-it was more being brought up around (like you stated) people who were like me 3/4th generation but kept banging on about Ireland and liked singing silly songs and shouting the odds.

As I said, I might have this all wrong but Im going off my own personal experience. when I find different I'll be big enough to come back here and apologise.

So with this in mind, its actually the English you despise?
They dont sound like ANY Irish people i know

I think thats check mate to you alexwilliamsgloves,well played sir.

 

[stony]

you must be fairly hairy then!!

Hairy fairy would be a more accurate description. Have you not read about his lust for BB2.0's buttocks

 

[Newlunar]

I know how to put a shamrock on a pint of Guinness and was almost selected for Jack Charlton's 1994 World Cup squad on that alone.

Ar Bejesus! Me an Andy Townsend, we got green blood coursing through our veins t'be sure.