How many points will be needed to win the league? (74 GD)

[davek1808]

If there's anything good to be said for today is we don't lose 2 on the bounce.

 

[Tb1981]

That's up to you, but imo without the assistance they get , they would be no more than mid-table .

To be fair they get a few dodgy ones but most of the pens are because the gave speedy explosive players
This is also the reason they are so shit as they can’t play football or control a game

 

[BLUEMATT23]

They played in Spain Thursday, Spurs had the week off and need a win to keep CL next season alive.
Plus it is Jose!
1-1 I predict.....

Don't worry the FA will ensure they get all the help they need from penalties and VAR tomorrow trust me.
They could have played in Uruguay on friday night, it won't matter
I expect them to fluke all their Remaining games with the help from the authorities.

 

[super_city_si]

The problems always when the rags are playing is the help they get from referees , you can never assume that they wont get an underserved free kick, penalty etc.

On a level playing field they wouldn't have made top 4 last season, and without the generous decisions this season would probably be no higher than mid table.

On ability alone they are pretty predictable and ordinary with shit tactics .

You have to think they would have got the penalty where stones was hauled to the ground by his shirt. Wasnt even reviewed.

 

[super_city_si]

Don't worry the FA will ensure they get all the help they need from penalties and VAR tomorrow trust me.
They could have played in Uruguay on friday night, it won't matter
I expect them to fluke all their Remaining games with the help from the authorities.

I dont think theyll win them all. Dippers will take points off them and i fancy spurs for a draw.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

To be fair they get a few dodgy ones but most of the pens are because the gave speedy explosive players
This is also the reason they are so shit as they can’t play football or control a game

of course all the decisions wont be wrong, but there are many which they do get which other teams would not get imo .

And they rely on playing on the break as they are incapable of controlling play otherwise - its agricultural but gets them results , and means they will never try an alternative approach .

 

[Claytop]

People on this thread at acting like United are flying and we’re playing shit scraping wins. Just relax. A team who won 14 on the bounce against a fucking good Liverpool team and held their nerve every single week to win the league will not feel pressure from ole and the shitbags. Today was a fluke simple as it happens annoyingly.

They’re not conceding many tbf, just 1 in the last 5 games that they’ve managed to get 11 points over. I suppose thankfully for us even that form isn’t good enough.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Really?

Did you not watch us completely dominate Leicester, the team that is third in the League, last week and beat a very good Dortmund side on Tuesday?

And if Foden had had his shooting boots on, it would have been by a larger margin.

we were very fortunate to beat Dortmund, we were largely bobbins. Despite that, taking our chances would have ended with a 4/5-1 win and we could have played a stronger team today and won. League on track and CL sorted, we make it unnecessarily hard for ourselves with too many unenforced errors when it matters.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

of course all the decisions wont be wrong, but there are many which they do get which other teams would not get imo .

And they rely on playing on the break as they are incapable of controlling play otherwise - its agricultural but gets them results , and means they will never try an alternative approach .

I also think you might be ignoring two clear penalties committed by Maguire where he held the opposing player in an arm lock / round the neck without conceding a clear penalty, but carry on thinking that the rags aren't treated differently if it makes you feel better.

 

[ctwrd]

Would these lot be happier if we had been knocked out of the cups early doors and won today?
Does that really make a better season?
Ironically it seems to be some of the older people amongst us who are acting entitled

 

[Sir Joe Aguero]

Yes. If the worst happens I’m in for 27k got United at 500/1 and 400/1

Where do you find odds like that pal, that’s insane.

 

[kaz7]

Dortmund win 2-3.

3 Dortmund players went off injured.

Haaland didn’t do much.

No more Dortmund.

Why are you posting this in here ? There is a thread

 

[sky tot]

we were very fortunate to beat Dortmund, we were largely bobbins. Despite that, taking our chances would have ended with a 4/5-1 win and we could have played a stronger team today and won. League on track and CL sorted, we make it unnecessarily hard for ourselves with too many unenforced errors when it matters.

We were fortunate to beat Dortmund... But could of won 5-1 .
????

 

[hateutd]

The problems always when the rags are playing is the help they get from referees , you can never assume that they wont get an underserved free kick, penalty etc.

On a level playing field they wouldn't have made top 4 last season, and without the generous decisions this season would probably be no higher than mid table.

On ability alone they are pretty predictable and ordinary with shit tactics .

No need help from referees with this team of Murinio....spuds are just a mediocrity...

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

No need help from referees with this team of Murinio....spuds are just a mediocrity...

Perhaps Mourinho will set the team up to stop the kick and rush which the rags favour so much.He used to be superb at such tactics but the gloss seems to have gone these days, and he chases the money when he's inevitably sacked.

Harry Hotspur icheatins probably ahead of Maguire in the cheating stakes and could well stick one in and nick the points.

Fingers crossed.

 

[Taylor]

I love how people quote fact when it isn’t.

Obviously isn't fact but the likelyhood of them beating spurs, Liverpool and Leicester is still. Obviously we shall see

 

[Vienna_70]

Even more reason to rest Dias in my humble opinion. A knock to him and/or Stones and we’re in a spot of bother.

It’s all risk reward.. I personally think that 11 was good enough to risk it. 29 shots to 2 kind of confirms it. I actually posted it was going to be one of those games at about 50 odd minutes in the match thread. It had the feeling it was going that way. Fielding our strongest 11 definitely lowers the already low odds of having “one of those days” but doesn’t totally eliminate them.

Basically we could be facing the same situation without any key players being rested.

The risk was worth the reward in my book and we got unlucky in this particular battle but it could prove valuable in winning multiple wars. I suppose we will find that out by the end of next month.

Maybe even by the end of this month.

 

[Vienna_70]

I don’t see it that way.. that goal wasn’t conceded to personnel and more due to leaving ourselves wide open due to trying get a winner... neither of which the inclusion of Dias would have changed.

Also... I really do think the Laporte injury is more reason to protect defenders for a crutch tie.

All my opinion though.

It was the correct decision to rest all those players, who didn’t start today.

The Premier League is a marathon, not a sprint, but the other three competitions are all sudden death.

It is imperative that we go into the Dortmund game as fresh as possible.

We have chances to make amends for today, but there is no coming back if we lose in Germany.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

We were fortunate to beat Dortmund... But could of won 5-1 .
????

Fine margins. We were dreadful for large spells, we got lucky Bellingham was pinged for a fair tackle and then we had a 15 minute spell where we missed 3/4 simple chances. The elite teams take them, Benzema didn't need asking twice tonight.

Dortmund should have knocked the stuffing out of us given how poorly we played, so we were lucky they didn't but then let them off the hook by squandering our chances. Difference is Dortmund are demonstrably a bit shit this season and we're supposed to be CL favourites. We need to start playing like it again.

 

[Vienna_70]

I think Pep was expected to rest several players today for a very obvious reason. Dortmund are the priority clearly. Even though today did not go as expected the rags still have to win their two games in hand to reduce our lead and three more than City do before we have to win another point. Our lead is still a handsome - and possibly a decisive - one. If it is intact when we play Villa Pep can rotate as much as ever: if not ... might be a different story.

But today's changes seem to me to have caused some possible problems for Wednesday. Today's team included all our left backs; Cancelo and Zinchenko played all 90 minutes, Mendy all but 15 and Ake was substituted after an hour for tactical reasons. I assume Pep does not intend to play a back three and we don't know Laporte is fit yet to play anywhere on Wednesday. So, left back?

The others to play all 90 minutes were Ferna, Bernado, Jesus and Raheem. At 36 Ferna cannot play twice in three days which is a shame because his influence alongside Rodri in what may be a tense last 20 minutes or so. And Bernado would appear to be pencilled in to start on Wednesday either in midfield or up front as a false 9. Jesus also played all 90 but may be brought on against Dortmund to replace Bernardo probably.

As our game next week end is the semi I presume rotation will not be great since we cannot afford to lose, which could could cause difficulties of selection for the league game against Villa. A Spurs victory tomorrow would therefore be very welcome.

I suspect that Aké was only ever going to play around an hour today, after all, it was his first football since Boxing Day.