How many points will be needed to win the league? (74 GD)

How many points will be needed to win the league?

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An important difference between 2012 (when Manure were 8 pts clear with 6 games to go) and 2021 is that there's no game between both teams till the end of the season. Manure rely entirely on other teams to stop us. It's good also that they'll play in EL semis, which will tire them to an extent, as they rely less on their squad players.

There's little doubt to me that most of the players and Pep prefer to win the CL to the PL, and the club bosses as well. So, Pep will risk the PL to an extent, if it is necessary to progress in the CL. Some fans may be unhappy and will get twitchy, but the CL comes first this season. Remember Kevin has sought reassurances from the board that we will do everything to win the CL.

If we lose from Dortmund, we will concentrate on the league and will probably finish strongly. If we progress further in the CL, we have 4 games after the CL semis (Chelsea, Newcastle, Brighton and Everton) in which Pep will make fewer changes than usual. So, 1 draw and 3 wins will do it, even if United win all their games, which is unlikely to happen.

To compete for the CL and the quadruple/treble is a golden opportunity. So, Pep will take risks with selections, particularly in the PL (for now).
 
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Now, personally, I have a reputation for worrying. I've made a life out of it. I thought I'd come here to see some rational talk to calm my fears, but I haven't found much, so I'm now realising that it might be me who needs to apply some rational logic here.

Is this undue panicking based upon three points lost since the derby really based upon reality, or is it as I felt in February 2018, when the overwhelming voice in my head that said "what if" kept pecking away like an excitable woodpecker?

Fear has taken over reality because of two things combined. One is that we will have lost the biggest title lead in history and the second is that it would be to United. We'd never hear the last of it.

However, let's analyse this a bit more deeply. If we were eight points clear of a team in the same form as United, but they weren't actually United; they were (say) Chelsea, would there be this level of panic? If we had never been more than eight points clear and we were now eight points clear, would there be this level of panic?

United play well against the better teams away. Today's result is no shock. Where they have dropped points is unexpectedly, to the poorer sides. Despite the fear, the chances are they will drop some more points. Maybe not many, but perhaps 2, 3, or even 4.

If they just drop the two, given our much superior goal difference, that would mean needing eight points. Palace will have nothing to play for. Chances are Newcastle and Brighton will be safe. Everton will have nothing to play for. Villa are a shadow of the team without Grealish - and they have nothing to play for.

It seems to be a belief now that Pep will field a reserve team for all league games. Even if we did, this was a reserve team yesterday worth about £400 million. One that had 29 shots to 2. With those kind of stats, you win 9 times out of 10. However, this was a game when we had a huge buffer beforehand. That buffer is lesser now and therefore the manager will know that the 'joker' card has now been played. It will not be done again. There will be changes, but line-ups like that will not likely be seen until if and when the job is done.

We've dropped 6 points in four months and we now have a run of fixtures that, despite rumours to the contrary, is (bar the Chelsea game) one you couldn't have hand picked much better. We also play four out of six away, which will better suit our passing game that is being restricted by the state of our pitch.

If we don't beat Villa, then I'll join in the flap, but there's nothing that flapping will change for the better in the next ten days and we've two other important games first. Games that, unlike the Leeds game, are do or die. No second chances. We have second and third chances in the league.

At the end of the day, this team and this manager are serial winners. They won't be suffering from the same nerves. Nobody, but nobody from outside of our club believes for a second we will blow up. It could happen, but it isn't likely. The odds are about 50-1. The reality is that if you spend your life continually worrying about 50-1 chances coming off, then you'll never do anything but worry.

I'm sure we will drop more points, but dropping nine whilst United drop none, given the fixtures we both have left, is a fear that is based more upon a phobia than rationale. The calculable odds are very small indeed.
 
A bit of perspective, EVERY other team in the PL would currently swap places with us in a heartbeat..

We are favourites for the CL, PL, FA Cup and League Cup..

We have scored more and conceded less goals than any other team in the PL.

We are double figure points clear at the top of the league with half a dozen games left to play..

We've dismantled the current PL Champions* on their own shit tip, thus ending years of not winning there..

Our best midfielder has pledged his future and best playing years with us and we are forefront in the marketplace for the world's top talent..

We have a manager in charge who could take ANY managerial job in world football but has pledged his immediate future with us..

We have fantastic players such as Edison, Dias, Laporte, Stones, Bernardo, De Bruyne and Foden, all of which are signed up on long term contracts..

We regularly challenge for all the major honours each season and this season are a baker's dozen number of games away from winning the lot..

Never been done before, may never be done but we're approaching mid April and we've got an unbelievable opportunity to achieve the unachievable..

Losing yesterday hasn't all of a sudden made us a bad team..

Lose a cup game and we're out, lose a league game and we're still on for something very special..


Points to win the league ?, one more than anybody else will be just fine..!
 
I care only about City. We keep getting beat by teams doing the same thing to us. I'll tell you another thing it's time we got a proper 9 in. Kun is gone soon and injured as he has been for a fair chunk of last season too. Constant poor finishing means we have to work far harder than most to get a win. Miss, miss fucking miss.
“Keep getting beat”

I’m in tears. This place is hilarious.
 
We need to lose 3 of our remaining 6 fixtures with United winning all of theirs for them to win the league.

Factor in that United still have to play Liverpool, Leeds and Leicester, them taking maximum points is far from guaranteed.

At the end of the day, we’ve just had a week where we smashed Leicester without really giving them a sniff, beat Dortmund and lost to Leeds despite having 29 shots to their 2 and making 7 changes in the process. It was a freak result that occasionally happens.

That said, our inability to come from behind to win football matches is definitely a concern.

2/3 seasons ago I was confident we’d score 3+ goals a game, now we’re lucky to score two. But then again, when your two supposed biggest attacking goal threats have less PL goals combined than Salah/Kane it’s no real surprise.
This must be in the minds of the players as well, put it this way if Villa take the lead next game I’ll be starting to flap...
 
If we’d have lost to Leicester and beaten Leeds, would there be the same level of panic? No.

Wednesday will tell us a lot, exorcise some champions league ghosts and the morale from that is likely to take us to a minimum a league and one cup double.
We looked scared last week, bayern will skin us
 
Horrible horrible weekend
Think ill get ridiculously drunk
Gutted at this weekend
 
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