How much will J.Navas improve the team over J.Milner?

[sh249]

I hate to say it, but come May 2014, we'll all be quite sick of Navas. He's hugely frustrating, and while he will provide the width that many City fans have craved for years, he's not a good enough, or intelligent enough player to provide a genuinely top class option out wide. He's so quick, but it's one thing being quick, and one thing knowing how to use it. He beats a man on the outside and delivers a cross a few times per game, but the number of times he'll brainlessly run himself into dead ends is heartbreaking. His delivery is ok, nothing to shout about, but I do expect him to pick up a fair few assists by virtue of his pace and fairly good delivery alone.

As we're all aware, we play a very distinct, compact game, focused on central areas. In turn, teams pack the central areas and leave space out wide. The belief amongst City fans is that Navas is going to hug the touchline while everyone else is central and we're suddenly going to have much more space in the middle because someone will have to mark Navas. Wrong. Full backs will leave him out there, there's no reason to mark him, by the time a ball is sprayed out wide to him the full back will have had time to split from the CBs, the CBs will have shuffled across, and the danger will be averted. There's a reason why in our system players don't hug the touchline, it's because it's ineffective to do so.

What was noticeable against Arsenal was that we were determined to get the ball wide, keep the ball wide and put more crosses into the box. Whether this was a Pellegrini tactic, or whether this was a product of having two static strikers in the box and fewer options centrally is yet to be seen; I'll never know what Pellegrini instructed the boys to do, but should this pattern of play continue throughout the season it'll be evident that it's a tactical ploy. In this instance, Navas' value to the side will be increased. However, once Aguero returns - and Jovetic is integrated into the side - I expect play to be focused through the central areas again.

What Milner brings to the side? Well he's more intelligent for starters, he'll use the ball much more effectively and will play the percentages game. Years ago Milner was the type who'd run aimlessly down the wing into cul-de-sacs, a la Navas, but he's taken a lot of that out of his game and developed well as a footballer. Milner is also better technically and will score more goals. I'd be quite happy to see Milner play on the right ahead of Navas at times this season, but Navas deserves the chance to prove himself. Milner proved himself last season, he was one of our best performers, imo the pressure's all on Navas. As I've said before, and a few have also highlighted here, Navas will provide us with much quicker counter attacks and transitions, which will be essential in the big European games.

Jesus Christ I'm good. Who's ready to admit I was right all along? Milner>>>>Navas and always has been.

Dick

Made me laugh

 

[Proelia]

Milner and baines just cancelled eachodr out you barely saw them

 

[herrock]

If Navas plays, it should be with just Negredo up front. and Nasri and Silva behind. Milner adds more defensively ,and would have been a better option against Bayern.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

For now Navas needs to be on the bench. We need some points and with 3 tou games away from home, let him come on later if needed. Milner has to start for now. We looked much more solid in midfield today.

 

[sam-caddick]

In important games we need Milner because we simply have too many luxury players in the team and hardly any grafters.

Navas should be a starter in games when teams pack out ten men behind the ball and camp on the edge of the box and should be an impact sub in big games.

Our biggest issue is team balance in my opinion, we have far too many luxury players if you ask me, if we sorted our midfield out and put a gafter in with Fernandinho and Yaya we could play Navas all the time, but then a striker will have to miss out.

We have too many luxury players and not enough grafters, a top striker too many, and an imbalanced midfied.

I would be going:

Silva------------Sergio-----------Navas
---Toure--Fernandinho--Milner---
Clichy-Nastasic-Kompany-Zabaleta
-------------------Hart---------------------

Toure and Fernandinho for me are too much of a luxury to partner in midfield, we need a Milner in there to help graft his way through the game and allowing Toure and Fernandinho to play their game.

 

[Blue2112]

Every time Milner plays I think we're a much better team. I think he gives the midfield a great balance with his energy and the fact he covers up for other players. There was a great example of that in the second half when Zabba was caught out of position and Milner saw it and covered the danger winning the ball and starting off an attack. He's far better than people give him credit for going forward and he gives the midfield much needed balance. I wasn't impressed with Navas in the Confederates Cup when everyone on here was raving about his pace. Yes he has it in abundance but more often than not fails with the quality of his delivery.

 

[daxman]

Every time Milner plays I think we're a much better team. I think he gives the midfield a great balance with his energy and the fact he covers up for other players. There was a great example of that in the second half when Zabba was caught out of position and Milner saw it and covered the danger winning the ball and starting off an attack. He's far better than people give him credit for going forward and he gives the midfield much needed balance. I wasn't impressed with Navas in the Confederates Cup when everyone on here was raving about his pace. Yes he has it in abundance but more often than not fails with the quality of his delivery.

How many times how we seen Navas do the exact same thing? On many occassions he has caught out counters or made last minute tackles, time and time agaim. Milner just seems to get credit when he does it, but Navas doesn't. It is part of the continuos myth to paint Milner as the defensive option and Navas the offensive one. It is really a myth. Navas is a fantastic defensive winger.

 

[eddiemarin09]

I hate to say it, but come May 2014, we'll all be quite sick of Navas. He's hugely frustrating, and while he will provide the width that many City fans have craved for years, he's not a good enough, or intelligent enough player to provide a genuinely top class option out wide. He's so quick, but it's one thing being quick, and one thing knowing how to use it. He beats a man on the outside and delivers a cross a few times per game, but the number of times he'll brainlessly run himself into dead ends is heartbreaking. His delivery is ok, nothing to shout about, but I do expect him to pick up a fair few assists by virtue of his pace and fairly good delivery alone.

As we're all aware, we play a very distinct, compact game, focused on central areas. In turn, teams pack the central areas and leave space out wide. The belief amongst City fans is that Navas is going to hug the touchline while everyone else is central and we're suddenly going to have much more space in the middle because someone will have to mark Navas. Wrong. Full backs will leave him out there, there's no reason to mark him, by the time a ball is sprayed out wide to him the full back will have had time to split from the CBs, the CBs will have shuffled across, and the danger will be averted. There's a reason why in our system players don't hug the touchline, it's because it's ineffective to do so.

What was noticeable against Arsenal was that we were determined to get the ball wide, keep the ball wide and put more crosses into the box. Whether this was a Pellegrini tactic, or whether this was a product of having two static strikers in the box and fewer options centrally is yet to be seen; I'll never know what Pellegrini instructed the boys to do, but should this pattern of play continue throughout the season it'll be evident that it's a tactical ploy. In this instance, Navas' value to the side will be increased. However, once Aguero returns - and Jovetic is integrated into the side - I expect play to be focused through the central areas again.

What Milner brings to the side? Well he's more intelligent for starters, he'll use the ball much more effectively and will play the percentages game. Years ago Milner was the type who'd run aimlessly down the wing into cul-de-sacs, a la Navas, but he's taken a lot of that out of his game and developed well as a footballer. Milner is also better technically and will score more goals. I'd be quite happy to see Milner play on the right ahead of Navas at times this season, but Navas deserves the chance to prove himself. Milner proved himself last season, he was one of our best performers, imo the pressure's all on Navas. As I've said before, and a few have also highlighted here, Navas will provide us with much quicker counter attacks and transitions, which will be essential in the big European games.

Jesus Christ I'm good. Who's ready to admit I was right all along? Milner>>>>Navas and always has been.

You couldn't be more wrong and you'll know that by the end of the season..He was a stand out at Sevilla and is trusted in the biggest matches for Spain (he was excellent in the World Cup finals) and was wanted by Barcelona and Real Madrid so I think they might know a little more than you.

 

[Blue2112]

Every time Milner plays I think we're a much better team. I think he gives the midfield a great balance with his energy and the fact he covers up for other players. There was a great example of that in the second half when Zabba was caught out of position and Milner saw it and covered the danger winning the ball and starting off an attack. He's far better than people give him credit for going forward and he gives the midfield much needed balance. I wasn't impressed with Navas in the Confederates Cup when everyone on here was raving about his pace. Yes he has it in abundance but more often than not fails with the quality of his delivery.

How many times how we seen Navas do the exact same thing? On many occassions he has caught out counters or made last minute tackles, time and time agaim. Milner just seems to get credit when he does it, but Navas doesn't. It is part of the continuos myth to paint Milner as the defensive option and Navas the offensive one. It is really a myth. Navas is a fantastic defensive winger.

I didn't say Navas doesn't do it (also not saying you said I did) but I just think Milner is better at it. It's all opinions though.

 

[Joburg Hero]

I hate to say it, but come May 2014, we'll all be quite sick of Navas. He's hugely frustrating, and while he will provide the width that many City fans have craved for years, he's not a good enough, or intelligent enough player to provide a genuinely top class option out wide. He's so quick, but it's one thing being quick, and one thing knowing how to use it. He beats a man on the outside and delivers a cross a few times per game, but the number of times he'll brainlessly run himself into dead ends is heartbreaking. His delivery is ok, nothing to shout about, but I do expect him to pick up a fair few assists by virtue of his pace and fairly good delivery alone.

As we're all aware, we play a very distinct, compact game, focused on central areas. In turn, teams pack the central areas and leave space out wide. The belief amongst City fans is that Navas is going to hug the touchline while everyone else is central and we're suddenly going to have much more space in the middle because someone will have to mark Navas. Wrong. Full backs will leave him out there, there's no reason to mark him, by the time a ball is sprayed out wide to him the full back will have had time to split from the CBs, the CBs will have shuffled across, and the danger will be averted. There's a reason why in our system players don't hug the touchline, it's because it's ineffective to do so.

What was noticeable against Arsenal was that we were determined to get the ball wide, keep the ball wide and put more crosses into the box. Whether this was a Pellegrini tactic, or whether this was a product of having two static strikers in the box and fewer options centrally is yet to be seen; I'll never know what Pellegrini instructed the boys to do, but should this pattern of play continue throughout the season it'll be evident that it's a tactical ploy. In this instance, Navas' value to the side will be increased. However, once Aguero returns - and Jovetic is integrated into the side - I expect play to be focused through the central areas again.

What Milner brings to the side? Well he's more intelligent for starters, he'll use the ball much more effectively and will play the percentages game. Years ago Milner was the type who'd run aimlessly down the wing into cul-de-sacs, a la Navas, but he's taken a lot of that out of his game and developed well as a footballer. Milner is also better technically and will score more goals. I'd be quite happy to see Milner play on the right ahead of Navas at times this season, but Navas deserves the chance to prove himself. Milner proved himself last season, he was one of our best performers, imo the pressure's all on Navas. As I've said before, and a few have also highlighted here, Navas will provide us with much quicker counter attacks and transitions, which will be essential in the big European games.

Jesus Christ I'm good. Who's ready to admit I was right all along? Milner>>>>Navas and always has been.

You couldn't be more wrong and you'll know that by the end of the season..He was a stand out at Sevilla and is trusted in the biggest matches for Spain (he was excellent in the World Cup finals) and was wanted by Barcelona and Real Madrid so I think they might know a little more than you.

Lol, as if. There's a reason why he was at Sevilla for so long and only left for a fee of £15m. If a top side like Barca wanted him, which they didn't, they'd have had him.