blueish swede
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SWP's back said:They did mate. Ask PB as to why he was shipped off to the states mid-season. You know PB to be a level headed poster.Pigeonho said:I actually enjoyed reading that. usually its a 'he's a fuckin rag ****', with no explanation but that was insightful to say the least. Obviously i'm in no position to argue against what you have seen with your own eyes but what I would ask is this. If you have seen this and come to the conclusion that Walton is clearly bending games to favour one particular team, why haven't his employers or anyone with any clout seen it and done something about it? If it was as obvious as you seem to think it is, (and I respect that is just your theory), surely someone high up in the FA and/or PL would see it and do something to protect their brand? That brand being the PL by the way, not Manchester United.Chris in London said:Sorry to hear that.
The answer is, truly appalling. Dig out any match day thread of a City game refereed by Peter walton and you will read countless examples of the decisions largely going one way.
Also, on telly you can only see so much of the game on the screen at any one time. If you are sitting up in the gods, you can really see the shape of the game. So you can see when City have a 5 on 3 counter attack for instance, and Walton blows for a cynical Everton foul rather than play advantage, you can see that the real advantage has been given to Everton. You get a greater sense of when time is being wasted and the officials do nothing about it. You see - real time, without the advantage of super slo-mo replays - when defenders barge into attackers jumping for headers at one end of the field and nothing is given.
Now, I haven't seen every City game with Walton in charge, but I've seen a good five or six of them, and in each of those games the refereeing has seemed to me to be consistently slanted against us. We all know that refs get things wrong, and most of the time they are honset mistakes. But game after game with this guy in charge everything seemed to be going against us.
Then I read the statistic that of the last 22 games involving us or United that Walton reffed, we didn't win one and they didn't lose one. And I read on here from a poster who lives near him in Northamptonshire that he was a well known local rag before appontment to the PL panel. I don't attach much weight to that myself, but it may be true and it goes alongside the other pieces of evidence.
I readily acknowledge that I might be putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with five, but IMO FWIW the possibility that Peter Walton was biased against us (gone now, thank god) is one that it is foolish to reject out of hand.
There are a large number of referees who I have no problem with at all - Dowd, Probert, Dean, Oliver -who make calls against us which are sometimes bad calls (eg the penalty at Liverpool in the CC 2nd leg) but whose overall track record does not indicate any sort of bias, and whose performances don't, when I'm watching the game, suggest bias to me. There are some who I don't think are biased but are spectacularly incompetent. Attwell is a good example - he was appallingly one sided when he reffed the Wolves game, but I think they were just thoroughly bad calls from someone who was out of his depth (think 'ghost goal').
But there are some who have a track record of decisions which seem to be slanted against us, who (when you see them in the flesh) seem to view every City tackle as a foul and every non City foul as a tackle. I take Walton as an example because he IMO was the worst - there are others such as Mason who has been discussed at length on here.
And if there are some referees who are biased, then it is possible that Webb is amongst them. I don't understand how sensible people can reject that possibility out of hand.
lionheart said:If Nigel or Mario are on the pitch for more than 15 minutes, you can be sure that Howard Ragamuffin Webb will send either or both off. Vincent Kompany and Yaya Toure will also be in his sights. It could be a very long 95 minutes.
North_Stand_Moaner said:Gets a lot of stick but one of the 'better' refs IMO.
carolyn said:Well after watching Cisse score to brilliant goals against Chelsea last night, I'm seriously worried. How do we keep him quiet? Please don't blow this opportunity now, I can't even watch. Aagh