HS2 - Birmingham to Manchester scrapped.

[Scottyboi]

I hope it does get cancelled, destroys Cheshire with no benefit for it. Chin it off.

 

[city2]

If this started in Manchester it would get finished no doubt

 

[Jimmieblue]

Reading this thread, it’s obvious why nothing ever gets done in the north. Surely we elect governments to come up with great ideas to make life easier for the whole country and then complete the f…..g thing. They need to impose penalty clauses on the companies that don’t fulfill their contracts and sack the overpaid bosses of these companies. This is simplistic I know, but in my lifetime I’ve only ever seen the extension to the M6 and the Bay Gateway finished. Meanwhile in Europe they’ve been rolling out miles and miles of roads, roundabouts, railway lines bridges, tunnels all off out net contribution to the EU. Rant over, take no notice, just got back via that shambles of an airport at Ringway!

 

[Grassland Blue]

That’s bollocks mate. Think about it
Where are these HGV’s going? They’re not all going to Euston or Piccadilly, so they have to be loaded and unloaded somewhere and when unloaded then carried again by lorry
London to Manchester is, in the grand scheme of things, only a short distance
if you’re transporting containers across Europe or the USA then freight becomes far more cost effective to ship via rail
If I have a container of goods that I want to ship from Trafford Park to Dartford, it’ll cost about £1000
If I had to ship it to a local depot where it would be unloaded, then stored, loaded onto a train, transported south, unloaded again, loaded onto another truck and then delivered to its destination, the cost will have more than doubled and so will the journey time

Trafford Park to Wembley, Southampton, Folkestone etc.

 

[Dial M 4 Mercer]

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Technically Crossrail was much more challenging. Tunnelling across parts of London, lots of very complex interfaces to manage etc. HS2 was needlessly made more complicated than was necessary due to the route being designed by committee. Lots of limitations were imposed by politicians due to pressure from voters and nimbys in the home counties so that they didnt lose votes.

The french pretty much draw a line and build the railway we fuck about for ages trying to satisfy every individual.

If they do cancel it, I would hope that the money is ring fenced for the north, as once again we've been short changed after being promised the so called Northern Powerhouse which now seems dead in the water.

I’m 99.99% sure it won’t be.

 

[Kompany Car]

I’m 99.99% sure it won’t be.

So you're saying there's a chance ? Far more optimistic than me mate.

 

[urban genie]

Well it is now, for us northern peasants at least

 

[The Black Shed]

Well it is now, for us northern peasants at least

Burnham is absolutely right. And I say that as an exiled Manc living in the south. I'm angry for everyone up there having to put up with this shit, continuously, day after day.

 

[Ribble73]

Reading this thread, it’s obvious why nothing ever gets done in the north. Surely we elect governments to come up with great ideas to make life easier for the whole country and then complete the f…..g thing. They need to impose penalty clauses on the companies that don’t fulfill their contracts and sack the overpaid bosses of these companies. This is simplistic I know, but in my lifetime I’ve only ever seen the extension to the M6 and the Bay Gateway finished. Meanwhile in Europe they’ve been rolling out miles and miles of roads, roundabouts, railway lines bridges, tunnels all off out net contribution to the EU. Rant over, take no notice, just got back via that shambles of an airport at Ringway!

Part of it is Modern Politicians know in their time none of this will be finished. So any long term projects like HS2 don’t interest them at at. None of this current shower of Arseholes in Parliament have the interests of the Country at heart. All they are bothered about is their own Careers.