Huddersfield child sex inquiry

johnnytapia said:
The local authority will only place children in care when there is a clear and present danger to their well-being. The costs of care, as you point out, are enormous, one of the reasons the threshold is incredibly high. Statistically, a child/young adult is in far greater danger when placed in a care home. I don't doubt the veracity of your conversation PB, but the above facts don't equate to children being put in care. I think there's more to this than what you were told.
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Accommodating a child doesn’t necessarily secure their safety. Quite often, the opposite actually happens.
 
johnnytapia said:
The local authority will only place children in care when there is a clear and present danger to their well-being. The costs of care, as you point out, are enormous, one of the reasons the threshold is incredibly high. Statistically, a child/young adult is in far greater danger when placed in a care home. I don't doubt the veracity of your conversation PB, but the above facts don't equate to children being put in care. I think there's more to this than what you were told.
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The LA will also explore every other possible avenue Pre-care. Any viable relatives or friends will be assessed. Care is the very, very last resort and has to be court ordered, unless S20 is agreed by parents.
 
nimrod said:
Yes having just read the thread I agree that @happy daze didnt do that, sounds like he hates the 'vigilante' language, people do get riled up at these kind of crimes though, I watched the BBC news about this result and found the whole thing unbelievable really, imagine if it was your daughter.
I see the ring leader got life with a minimum of 18 years ? I think (I always think) life should mean life. As in life. Like Brady & Hindley.
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Vigilante language turns to vigilante actions quite often,there was a case in the north west a few years back,foster carers for an number of years unblemished record the local authority asked them to take a girl in her early teens.

After a short period she made allegations against the man of a sexual nature,he was arrested and charged and word quickly got round.

Dog shit through the letter box,windows bricked,graffiti so they were forced to move,nearly broke them up,him close to a breakdown,when it got to court the charges were suddenly dropped,turns out the kid was very troubled and had made the same accusation several times before and all had proved unfounded.

The local authority were well aware of her history but failed to tell the foster carers who were understandably not happy and by this time their lives were pretty much ruined.

So you see call me all the names you like but we have a judicial system for a good reason and it is important that it is that system that decides guilt or innocence and not a bunch of amateurs not in full possession of the facts making the decision or taking the law in to their own hands.

So if you want to take the mick or deride it or me feel free but beware that it isn't you or one of yours one day on the receiving end and you think there's no justice.
 
happy daze said:
Vigilante language turns to vigilante actions quite often,there was a case in the north west a few years back,foster carers for an number of years unblemished record the local authority asked them to take a girl in her early teens.

After a short period she made allegations against the man of a sexual nature,he was arrested and charged and word quickly got round.

Dog shit through the letter box,windows bricked,graffiti so they were forced to move,nearly broke them up,him close to a breakdown,when it got to court the charges were suddenly dropped,turns out the kid was very troubled and had made the same accusation several times before and all had proved unfounded.

The local authority were well aware of her history but failed to tell the foster carers who were understandably not happy and by this time their lives were pretty much ruined.

So you see call me all the names you like but we have a judicial system for a good reason and it is important that it is that system that decides guilt or innocence and not a bunch of amateurs not in full possession of the facts making the decision or taking the law in to their own hands.

So if you want to take the mick or deride it or me feel free but beware that it isn't you or one of yours one day on the receiving end and you think there's no justice.
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Known as ALLEGATION kids......some kids use it as a manipulative tool. I've worked in residential care and it happened loads with many staff members having breakdowns and never working in care again.

This type of thing can ruin real abuse allegations.
 
mancityvstoke said:
Known as ALLEGATION kids......some kids use it as a manipulative tool. I've worked in residential care and it happened loads with many staff members having breakdowns and never working in care again.

This type of thing can ruin real abuse allegations.
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Yeah,anyone remember Dave Jones on trial? None of this takes away from the horror those girls suffered or other genuine cases,just reminds that gossip,rumour or even being brought to trial are not facts.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-job-as-a-premier-league-manager-1792753.html
 
willipp said:
I’m not so sure I agree with that when I’ve just seen about 10 towns listed with the same crimes by Pakistani people. Maybe there are gangs of white, black, Chinese and Indian gangs from the same area going around raping groups of white girls, i just haven’t seen that news.
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Really, you have never heard any news or hints about white men grooming and sexually abusing children and getting away with it? Nothing of the sort about some of the major institutions in the UK? Nothing about sexual predators in the BBC? Nothing about some major politicians being complete sexual deviants and getting away wiht it? Nothing about the Catholic church covering up pedophilia for decades and no one being bought to justice.

I'd suggest your either selectively blind or a fucking liar.
 
Southbanken said:
Really, you have never heard any news or hints about white men grooming and sexually abusing children and getting away with it? Nothing of the sort about some of the major institutions in the UK? Nothing about sexual predators in the BBC? Nothing about some major politicians being complete sexual deviants and getting away wiht it? Nothing about the Catholic church covering up pedophilia for decades and no one being bought to justice.

I'd suggest your either selectively blind or a fucking liar.
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Sorry, didnt realise this was the thread about the horrific crimes catholic preists have been up to, jimmy Saville and government ministers. Must have missed that in the title. Here was me thinking this was about the Huddersfield enquiry and many other similar enquiries there have been over the past few years that have followed a very similar pattern.

Feel free to start a topic on online pedophiles or the catholic church and i will give equal contempt towards them, other than that, jog the fuck on.
 
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