Hughes calls for clarity over Tevez row, MuEN block comments

[2sheikhs]

Yeah that's right. UEFA have changed the overarching rules of European football to stop one football club muscling in.

I think you have delusions of granduer about our importance in the greater scheme of things.

Our importance in the greater scheme of things led to every top seed in the champions league draw dreading getting us in their group, and the ones that did get us weren't too happy about it.

That's hardly compelling evidence as to why the whole of the rules of European football have been changed with the sole intention of neutering our threat, as you are suggesting.

"City look like they could be quite strong on the pitch in the next couple of years. I know, we'll completely change the financial rules across the whole of football to try and stop them in their tracks".

That's right, that's just how the world works.

Quick question. Are you one of those people who think the moon landings were fake?

No. I'm just one of those people who saw the scum, real madrid, barca and chelsea in particular spend stupid money on players while the governing bodies sat back and did fuck-all about it, then decide it has to stop when we spend money. Look at the criteria ffs. A club in shitloads of debt can spend as much as they want but one with a benefactor can't? Have a word with yourself. If it wasn't brought in to stop us then that's one amazing coincidence.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Our importance in the greater scheme of things led to every top seed in the champions league draw dreading getting us in their group, and the ones that did get us weren't too happy about it.

That's hardly compelling evidence as to why the whole of the rules of European football have been changed with the sole intention of neutering our threat, as you are suggesting.

"City look like they could be quite strong on the pitch in the next couple of years. I know, we'll completely change the financial rules across the whole of football to try and stop them in their tracks".

That's right, that's just how the world works.

Quick question. Are you one of those people who think the moon landings were fake?

No. I'm just one of those people who saw the scum, real madrid, barca and chelsea in particular spend stupid money on players while the governing bodies sat back and did fuck-all about it, then decide it has to stop when we spend money. Look at the criteria ffs. A club in shitloads of debt can spend as much as they want but one with a benefactor can't? Have a word with yourself. If it wasn't brought in to stop us then that's one amazing coincidence.

Well I just had a word with myself and I established that you are still talking bollocks.

You are displaying all the classic signs of paranoia. Thinking the world revolves around you and that everything bad that happens is part of some 'plan' to thwart you.

It may have been designed to ensure that it didn't threaten the established order, I can't dispute that, but to suggest, as you have, that it was created to prevent Manchester City Football Club becoming successful is absurd.

 

[2sheikhs]

That's hardly compelling evidence as to why the whole of the rules of European football have been changed with the sole intention of neutering our threat, as you are suggesting.

"City look like they could be quite strong on the pitch in the next couple of years. I know, we'll completely change the financial rules across the whole of football to try and stop them in their tracks".

That's right, that's just how the world works.

Quick question. Are you one of those people who think the moon landings were fake?

No. I'm just one of those people who saw the scum, real madrid, barca and chelsea in particular spend stupid money on players while the governing bodies sat back and did fuck-all about it, then decide it has to stop when we spend money. Look at the criteria ffs. A club in shitloads of debt can spend as much as they want but one with a benefactor can't? Have a word with yourself. If it wasn't brought in to stop us then that's one amazing coincidence.

Well I just had a word with myself and I established that you are still talking bollocks.

You are displaying all the classic signs of paranoia. Thinking the world revolves around you and that everything bad that happens is part of some 'plan' to thwart you.

It may have been designed to ensure that it didn't threaten the established order, I can't dispute that, but to suggest, as you have, that it was created to prevent Manchester City Football Club becoming successful is absurd.

And which team is most likely,(and to some extent already has) to threaten the established order? They've even specifically named us in statements regarding FFP. The plans were draughted almost as soon as we were taken over

 

[danebanksheik]

Sorry I didnt respond earlier

You misunderstand the role of the sports editor. He rarely alters my stuff, and when he does it tends to be for legal reasons, maybe he feels I have gone over the top in criticism of someone.
He has NEVER altered my stuff to fit a different agenda, and I would be furious if he did.
So you stuff about the editor "vetting" my stuff is as inaccurate as is scurrilous

So he checks it for legal reasons? Is that not "vetting" perhaps i should have said "screening" and editing? Hardly "scurrilous"
If you say he has / you have never altered stuff to fit a different agenda then i must accept that, I cannot prove otherwise. I suppose he is too busy on talkshite, ha ha.

I have been at the MEN for 13 years now, and have never been told to represnt the owners' views in any way - either when owned by the Guardian or Trinity Mirror. They just let us get on with it, with no interference.
They want to make money and, as I keep saying, they would also have to be total idiots to think a smart way of making money in Manchester is to have an anti-City agenda.

Again, thanks for making that clear.

You talk about having to be a blue or red in Manchester, but you miss the point that by becoming a sports reporter, such stuff tends to go out of the window.

I didn't miss the point, I made the point. Anyway, if you have any passion for football I dont believe "stuff tends to go out of the window", my opinion. I note you say "tends to" rather than "does". . . .

I take the point about only wanting news, and not opinion, but opinion drives the sports media these days. We wouldn't sell many papers, neither would the nationals, and Talksport would have very few listeners if we and they didn't provoke debate and offer opinion.
The best sports writers are opinionated, whether you agree with them or not.

I think you do yourself down a little putting your publication in the same bracket asTalkshite. Talkshite pedalled second rate cricketers like Irani giving opinions about football ffs or at least they did the last time I listened to it. There is nothing wrong with opinionated sports writers providing they have are speaking from a position of having been there done that, and most haven't. I only ask therefore that they stick to the news.

I don't mind getting truckloads of venom - it comes with the job description. The idiot stuff I ignore, the conspiratorial stuff I try to answer, as I have done here, and the smart stuff I try to take on board.

Glad to be of service;)

 

[stony]

Roll on next week and the return of proper football. At least we can all get back to arguing about Barry being slow, Yaya being lazy and Joe Harts distribution not being up to much.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

No. I'm just one of those people who saw the scum, real madrid, barca and chelsea in particular spend stupid money on players while the governing bodies sat back and did fuck-all about it, then decide it has to stop when we spend money. Look at the criteria ffs. A club in shitloads of debt can spend as much as they want but one with a benefactor can't? Have a word with yourself. If it wasn't brought in to stop us then that's one amazing coincidence.

Well I just had a word with myself and I established that you are still talking bollocks.

You are displaying all the classic signs of paranoia. Thinking the world revolves around you and that everything bad that happens is part of some 'plan' to thwart you.

It may have been designed to ensure that it didn't threaten the established order, I can't dispute that, but to suggest, as you have, that it was created to prevent Manchester City Football Club becoming successful is absurd.

And which team is most likely,(and to some extent already has) to threaten the established order? They've even specifically named us in statements regarding FFP. The plans were draughted almost as soon as we were taken over

Seriously? They actually named us?

Fuck me. Well that's me shown then. And there was me thinking that they hadn't named us and there was no conspiracy.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Have you ever been abducted by aliens at any point? Just asking, like.

 

[stony]

Have you ever been abducted by aliens at any point? Just asking, like.

Pinkwheeltrim has posted many a time about having anal probes but I think that's just a normal weekend for him and nothing to do with aliens.

 

[mcfc1632]

This is going off-topic and I will resist adding to that

But there has been much written in depth about the genesis of the introduction of FFPR - and to suggest that thwarting CITY is the sole purpose of FFPR is indeed a degree of paranoia.

But to think that the emergence of CITY and the threat of similar such 'new players' would have to the established old order - that had been powerful enough to force the structure of the CL and belittling of the UeFA Cup just to provide security - was not the clear catalyst for and focus of these regulations as they have been shaped is ignorance of the highest order..

As I say going down that path is a divergence from the topic - but there has been plenty written about the motivations of FFPR being brought forward that there is no real reason for people to speak with such ignorance

 

[hgblue]

This is going off-topic and I will resist adding to that

But there has been much written in depth about the genesis of the introduction of FFPR - and to suggest that thwarting CITY is the sole purpose of FFPR is indeed a degree of paranoia.

But to think that the emergence of CITY and the threat of similar such 'new players' would have to the established old order - that had been powerful enough to force the structure of the CL and belittling of the UeFA Cup just to provide security - was not the clear catalyst for and focus of these regulations as they have been shaped is ignorance of the highest order..

As I say going down that path is a divergence from the topic - but there has been plenty written about the motivations of FFPR being brought forward that there is no real reason for people to speak with such ignorance

Agreed. I also think the possible emergence of a breakaway European Super League was a major factor for EUFA. Financial Fair Play my arse.

 

[2sheikhs]

Well I just had a word with myself and I established that you are still talking bollocks.

You are displaying all the classic signs of paranoia. Thinking the world revolves around you and that everything bad that happens is part of some 'plan' to thwart you.

It may have been designed to ensure that it didn't threaten the established order, I can't dispute that, but to suggest, as you have, that it was created to prevent Manchester City Football Club becoming successful is absurd.

And which team is most likely,(and to some extent already has) to threaten the established order? They've even specifically named us in statements regarding FFP. The plans were draughted almost as soon as we were taken over

Seriously? They actually named us?

Fuck me. Well that's me shown then. And there was me thinking that they hadn't named us and there was no conspiracy.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Have you ever been abducted by aliens at any point? Just asking, like.

Are you about 10 or something? Just asking like.