Hughes calls for clarity over Tevez row, MuEN block comments

quiet_riot said:
stuart brennan said:
quiet_riot said:
And yet, the MEN (to my limited knowledge) didn't write a single thing about Giggs banging his sister-in-law.

The MEN tends to steer clear of such NotW type stories - can you name a sex scandal that we did give coverage to, unless it had a wider public interest?

We actually covered the Giggs story when it turned into a debate about the role of Twitter, and tge use or abuse of parliamentary privilege, here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1421660_twitter-gagging-row-i-have-no-regrets-over-naming-ryan-giggs-says-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... gs-says-mp</a>

A 'NotW type story' that was covered by EVERY paper, broadsheets and all, such was its impact with regards to social networking legalities, super-injunctions and what have you.

You clearly didn't click on the link just above

As for the rest of it, the tablouds argue that EVERY sex scandal involving a celebrity has wider public interest. The MEN tends to steer clear - if it had been a City player we would also have steered clear.
 
stuart brennan said:
quiet_riot said:
And yet, the MEN (to my limited knowledge) didn't write a single thing about Giggs banging his sister-in-law.

The MEN tends to steer clear of such NotW type stories - can you name a sex scandal that we did give coverage to, unless it had a wider public interest?

We actually covered the Giggs story when it turned into a debate about the role of Twitter, and tge use or abuse of parliamentary privilege, here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1421660_twitter-gagging-row-i-have-no-regrets-over-naming-ryan-giggs-says-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... gs-says-mp</a>

Yet didn't feel the need to grant Stephen Ireland the same reverence in 2007 when his misdeeds came up on Bebo?

<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1016955_city_play_down_ireland_web_talk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... d_web_talk</a>
 
Compare the press reactions to Munich chants from a few away supporters last year (a solid week of condemnations, disgust, horror) to the reporting on United supporters bringing along an Istanbul banner and unfurling it and then singing songs about Leeds fans being stabbed to death in Turkey.

While the match was on, Twitter was full of reporters disgusted with the United fans, but all that made the papers was maybe a single article in one or two papers which managed to somehow blame the Leeds fans, and nothing afterwards.

Can you explain that Stuart Brennan?
 
anymore than 2sheiks said:
Stuart, do you ever watch/listen to press conferences with ferguson? Nobody dares ask him anything controversial or calls his judgement into question. Mancini seems to be on the defensive most of the time. Rooney is older than Balotelli and sometimes captains utd so should show more responsibility, yet on and off the pitch, he's a disgusting waste of skin. If the media in general don't show bias to utd, then why was the friendly against Monaco covered on sky and bbc updates until they realised they were getting heavily beaten? As far as the press were concerned, that match didn't exist. They beat Barca in a freindly and all of a sudden it's revenge for the CL final!! I am grateful to you though for coming on here to discuss things. Perhaps you could speak to some other journo's and persuade them to grow a pair and put their opinions to us.

I've been in dozens of Fergie's press conferences, and seen Fergie challenged and asked controversial stuff many times - often with interesting results!
Mancini is a different character, and not in as strong a position, so he deals with such things differently.
National newspapers are banned on a regular basis for writing stuff about Utd - there is a strong feeling at Utd that they have an anti-United agenda, again without any truth behind it.
Haven't a clue about the Monaco thing, but to suggest the BBC are pro-United is laughable, given that Fergie has only just started speaking to them again after years of boycott. Same with Sky.
Do you think all national football writers are Utd fans? I can think of three, out of a few dozen, who actually are
 
stuart brennan said:
anymore than 2sheiks said:
Stuart, do you ever watch/listen to press conferences with ferguson? Nobody dares ask him anything controversial or calls his judgement into question. Mancini seems to be on the defensive most of the time. Rooney is older than Balotelli and sometimes captains utd so should show more responsibility, yet on and off the pitch, he's a disgusting waste of skin. If the media in general don't show bias to utd, then why was the friendly against Monaco covered on sky and bbc updates until they realised they were getting heavily beaten? As far as the press were concerned, that match didn't exist. They beat Barca in a freindly and all of a sudden it's revenge for the CL final!! I am grateful to you though for coming on here to discuss things. Perhaps you could speak to some other journo's and persuade them to grow a pair and put their opinions to us.

I've been in dozens of Fergie's press conferences, and seen Fergie challenged and asked controversial stuff many times - often with interesting results!
Mancini is a different character, and not in as strong a position, so he deals with such things differently.
National newspapers are banned on a regular basis for writing stuff about Utd - there is a strong feeling at Utd that they have an anti-United agenda, again without any truth behind it.
Haven't a clue about the Monaco thing, but to suggest the BBC are pro-United is laughable, given that Fergie has only just started speaking to them again after years of boycott. Same with Sky.
Do you think all national football writers are Utd fans? I can think of three, out of a few dozen, who actually are

I think they're all West Ham United fans, if that counts.
 
Damocles said:
stuart brennan said:
quiet_riot said:
And yet, the MEN (to my limited knowledge) didn't write a single thing about Giggs banging his sister-in-law.

The MEN tends to steer clear of such NotW type stories - can you name a sex scandal that we did give coverage to, unless it had a wider public interest?

We actually covered the Giggs story when it turned into a debate about the role of Twitter, and tge use or abuse of parliamentary privilege, here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1421660_twitter-gagging-row-i-have-no-regrets-over-naming-ryan-giggs-says-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... gs-says-mp</a>

Yet didn't feel the need to grant Stephen Ireland the same reverence in 2007 when his misdeeds came up on Bebo?

<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1016955_city_play_down_ireland_web_talk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... d_web_talk</a>

How is that relevant - surely a City player appearing to suggest he doesn't like football and got stuck playing it, is relevant?
We didn't carry anything about Mario's tangled love life, or any of the other sleazy stuff concerning City stars<br /><br />-- Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:49 pm --<br /><br />
80s Shorts said:
squirtyflower said:
so a story with the headline 'bonkers balotelli' is more newsworthy than the longest serving player at stretford banging several women other than his wife and then trying to use the press to cover it up

lol you even continued the cover up after the ban had been lifted


Brennan has exposed himself as a fool, a liar or somebody with an agenda with his "NoTW" comment. The Giggs story was covered in every national tabloid and broadsheet.

No wonder they give brennans paper away for free.

Jesus H Christ! I said that we DID cover it. Have you clicked on the link, here it is again:

<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1421660_twitter-gagging-row-i-have-no-regrets-over-naming-ryan-giggs-says-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... gs-says-mp</a>

We covered it in the same way the broadsheets covered it, not as a sex scandal but as a story of public interest
 
stuart brennan said:
How is that relevant - surely a City player appearing to suggest he doesn't like football and got stuck playing it, is relevant?
We didn't carry anything about Mario's tangled love life, or any of the other sleazy stuff concerning City stars

It's relevant because it was ditching into tabloidism when you stated earlier that the MEN refused to do so over the Giggs affair? The story was a non-story.<br /><br />-- Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:53 pm --<br /><br />
stuart brennan said:
We covered it in the same way the broadsheets covered it, not as a sex scandal but as a story of public interest

Again, you're cherry picking, many of the broadshets covered Giggs as a juicy story that it was. Case in point, a bit of a digging article from the Granuiad:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/08/ryan-giggs-the-rewritten-interview" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... -interview</a>
 
edgecroft said:
Compare the press reactions to Munich chants from a few away supporters last year (a solid week of condemnations, disgust, horror) to the reporting on United supporters bringing along an Istanbul banner and unfurling it and then singing songs about Leeds fans being stabbed to death in Turkey.

While the match was on, Twitter was full of reporters disgusted with the United fans, but all that made the papers was maybe a single article in one or two papers which managed to somehow blame the Leeds fans, and nothing afterwards.

Can you explain that Stuart Brennan?

Here's one for a start, but I'm not going to go into great depth defending the nationals - they can do that themselves.
I can only say that my experience is that none of the national lads has an anti-City agenda. End of
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/david-mcdonnell/David-McDonnell-column-After-Munich-and-Istanbul-chants-can-we-ever-cure-football-s-addiction-to-sick-songs-article804706.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion ... 04706.html</a>
 
Damocles said:
stuart brennan said:
How is that relevant - surely a City player appearing to suggest he doesn't like football and got stuck playing it, is relevant?
We didn't carry anything about Mario's tangled love life, or any of the other sleazy stuff concerning City stars

It's relevant because it was ditching into tabloidism when you stated earlier that the MEN refused to do so over the Giggs affair? The story was a non-story.

-- Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:53 pm --

stuart brennan said:
We covered it in the same way the broadsheets covered it, not as a sex scandal but as a story of public interest

Again, you're cherry picking, many of the broadshets covered Giggs as a juicy story that it was. Case in point, a bit of a digging article from the Granuiad:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/08/ryan-giggs-the-rewritten-interview" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... -interview</a>

Simon Hattenstone is a humorous columnist, so that's hardly covering it as a news story, is it?
 

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