Huntingdon Train Incident - Reports of multiple stabbings

[Bigga]

There's nothing contradictory here mate. It looks like a terrorist incident. What's not to understand there?

The BRP said there's nothing to suggest it was a terrorist incident. I think that's nonsense.

Maybe read what you wrote again? You're criticising a statement at the beginning but agreeing it needs further investigation at the end.

That's all I'm saying.

 

[Winchester]

Of course we know in the majority of cases people are just too scared to come out with

Eh?

 

[Eccles Blue]

This is a terrible incident but I freely admit that my first thought (based on the time I heard the news) was which football team play in that area!! Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it is terrorist rather than random or a load of football hooligans returning from a match?

Wait until it has been investigated and see what the authorities say not social media.
JMHO

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

The terrorism definition is ridiculous.
The act of attacking multiple defenseless and trapped people on a train in such a savage way is nothing else other than terrorising.
The fact that they say this isn't terrorism, does nothing but downplay the incident.
To the point where snowflakes as witnessed on this thread are celebrating that its not deemed as terrorism.

Ive just seen a quote from that BTP officer... "nothing to suggest terror incident"
I don't give a shit whether there were racial, religious or political motivations, what happened last night to those victims and even others on that train that witnessed it, is nothing other than a terror incident.

You can refuse to give a shit about the definition of terrorism, but it's not going to change.

Nobody here has said this crime is less serious because it's not being treated as a terrorist incident. Some have, however, pointed out that those who have spent all night claiming very specific motives without any evidence should probably feel silly. You lashing out and accusing others of being snowflakes implies that they're right.

I would argue that most murders and attempted murders are, to use your word, "terrorising" to the victims and witnesses.

But that alone doesn't make them terrorist attacks. There needs to be some kind of twisted logic, some idea that the attacker wants to promote - such as religious fundamentalism, or an extreme political ideology.

Maybe the police find one here - but as of yet they haven't, and the fact that they've said there's nothing to suggest one certainly implies that they're looking at an alternative explanation.

 

[Bigga]

I’m waiting to see if these two twats are converts to you know what

Hope you apply this "thought process" to any convert that goes to another land 'in defence of it' and picks up and uses weapons that slaughters women and babies and starves the rest.

Fair's fair...

 

[.db.]

I know we've all been told not to speculate, but doesn't everyone think the lack of information about the perpetrators is itself very telling. I do.

Like the triple stabbings/murder in the street earlier this week, the Police identified the perpetrator early and said they did so to avoid speculation that may cause anything distress and mistrust to something more serious.

Similarly, with the Crumpsall synagogue stabbings. They took some time while they sorted out the potential bomb situation and how the victims were, but came out and identified him and his motives on the following day.

I thought that was handled better than when the Police didn’t identify the Southport child killer and speculation in the vacuum of information ended up with misinformation and riots.

I wonder which the Police will choose to do here?

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

There's nothing contradictory here mate. It looks like a terrorist incident. What's not to understand there?

The BRP said there's nothing to suggest it was a terrorist incident. I think that's nonsense.

Based on the facts.

They're actually investigating it. You're sat at home on Bluemoon.

Who am I going to trust on this one...

 

[The blue phantom]

They aren’t wrong though are they?

Stick to the transfer threads.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

No you wait for the facts

I did say ‘think’. Do you never have an opinion on something until you have the facts?

When the synagogue was attacked a few weeks ago, there wasn’t one part of you that thought, maybe this was done intentionally?

 

[richards30]

Stick to the transfer threads.

Where do you live mate?

 

[Blue Since 76]

The ideology that has arrived in recent times that doesn’t fit in stylistically with British culture and values?

Fair point. They'll be buying great British football clubs next.

Assume you'll be protesting about Muslims as the match today, or are you a hypocrite as well as a racist?

 

[grunge]

Nothing to see here scream the liberals! Trying desperately to pretend there’s not a problem in this country.

And the right scream we are in some lawless hellscape. Which is just as bad as suggesting there isn’t a problem that needs addressing.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Far too many people are being influenced by bad actors controlling social media bots, Germany was hit with them a lot. Millions of posts by thousands of bots. Hundreds of videos and articles a week being generated with the express intention of trying to make it seem worse than it is, 1 to make it seem better in Russia for the locals there and 2 to spread the feeling that we have more problems than we do and to “concentrate on fixing local problems and forget Ukraine”

Thousands of bots, millions of posts, hundreds of videos and articles a month all to stir up shit in western countries and they are well and truly in action here.

Keep this in mind when reading social media. Odds are what you are reading is trying to manipulate. If everyone looked at social media as a place where we can be easily manipulated we would all be far better off.

This video explains how it works on a psychological level.



Note. This isn’t specifically aimed at you but your post was a good launching point for it.

 

[SouthStandStander]

This is a terrible incident but I freely admit that my first thought (based on the time I heard the news) was which football team play in that area!! Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it is terrorist rather than random or a load of football hooligans returning from a match?

Wait until it has been investigated and see what the authorities say not social media.
JMHO

Wtf!!
When was the last time football hooligans stabbed over 10 people on a fucking train. Or anywhere else in the UK for that matter.
That is some wierd mental gymnastics to say it was more likely to be that than terrorism. You had your head in the sand for 20 years?

 

[richards30]

Fair point. They'll be buying great British football clubs next.

Assume you'll be protesting about Muslims as the match today, or are you a hypocrite as well as a racist?

What makes me a racist?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Like the triple stabbings/murder in the street earlier this week, the Police identified the perpetrator early and said they did so to avoid speculation that may cause anything distress and mistrust to something more serious.

Similarly, with the Crumpsall synagogue stabbings. They took some time while they sorted out the potential bomb situation and how the victims were, but came out and identified him on the following day.

I thought that was handled better than when the Police didn’t identify the Southport child killer and speculation in the vacuum of information ended up with misinformation and riots.

I wonder which the Police will choose to do here?

I think the Southport situation was - however well intentioned by all parties - much worse. The government and the police actually lied about the situation in order to try to downplay things.

 

[Paul1970]

I mean, I don't actually care but it does seem strangely, very specific and a bit confusing wording.

I suppose its possible to be white and of Caribbean decent but in that case they probably would have said 'white'

They've already organised a protest at Epping tonight because of another 'illegal' so nobody is listening anyway.

Wasn’t that over that migrant who stabbed that bike rider or the migrant who raped that women I mean take your pic

 

[mind your car Mr?]

Wtf!!
When was the last time football hooligans stabbed over 10 people on a fucking train. Or anywhere else in the UK for that matter.
That is some wierd mental gymnastics to say it was more likely to be that than terrorism. You had your head in the sand for 20 years?

Have they named the club they support yet?

 

[.db.]

The terrorism definition is ridiculous.
The act of attacking multiple defenseless and trapped people on a train in such a savage way is nothing else other than terrorising.
The fact that they say this isn't terrorism, does nothing but downplay the incident.
To the point where snowflakes as witnessed on this thread are celebrating that its not deemed as terrorism.

Ive just seen a quote from that BTP officer... "nothing to suggest terror incident"
I don't give a shit whether there were racial, religious or political motivations, what happened last night to those victims and even others on that train that witnessed it, is nothing other than a terror incident.

Yeah, the definition of terrosim makes things that aren’t classed as terrorism seem less serious.

Two people running about with knives stabbing people on train carriages caused terror in the victims, potential victims and wider society no matter what the official definition is.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Seen it already. Posts on Facebook saying the statement is a lie, and they are saying they are British so not to have people rioting. That’s Karen, from Facebook as opposed to the transport police guy giving out facts earlier.

There are a lot of disappointed people choosing not to believe the statement.

What does being a British national prove or not prove?

Wasn’t the guy who blew up the Manchester arena a British national? The 7/7 bombers and plenty more.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

What does being a British national prove or not prove?

Wasn’t the guy who blew up the Manchester arena a British national? The 7/7 bombers and plenty more.

You’d have to ask Karen and her ilk.

The statement said they were both born in the UK.