Huntingdon Train Incident - Reports of multiple stabbings

[halfmist]

Looks like a fella with nowt to do with it got tasered too and mistaken as an attacker.

I suppose we should be grateful the innocent guy didn’t get shot…….Prestwich.

 

[Bigga]

Good post. It clearly has more of an affect on you personally than others.
What angers me is, the Authorities knew within minutes, by interviewing the guy with him and other witnesses,that he was “doing the devils work” and had mental issues so why the fuck do they leave it so long to tell the public that it was likely to be a one off isolated incident.
There is covering one’s arse and reassuring the public, which then avoids all the speculation that inevitably follows.

One of the posters (good guy, I won't name him) dropped a post saying it had been reported as seeing 'a black man dressed in black' doing it.

I responded by saying 'Black man? They'll come for us all!'. It was humorous to me, knowing the mindset of the Gammons, but the poster deleted the post, meaning my reply had to go.

Nothing surprises me, though. These tw@s would 'want their country back' and still be cheering on Muslims, Blacks and Asians, past and present who played/ are playing for City, while nipping down the Chinese chippy or for a curry after the match.

They're, collectively, sick f'kin minded.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

One of the posters (good guy, I won't name him) dropped a post saying it had been reported as seeing 'a black man dressed in black' doing it.

I responded by saying 'Black man? They'll come for us all!'. It was humorous to me, knowing the mindset of the Gammons, but the poster deleted the post, meaning my reply had to go.

Nothing surprises me, though. These tw@s would 'want their country back' and still be cheering on Muslims, Blacks and Asians, past and present who played/ are playing for City, while nipping down the Chinese chippy or for a curry after the match.

They're, collectively, sick f'kin minded.

Sounds like you engage in culture wars and then get agitated when people reciprocate.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

That was his whole point though, was it not? That individual 'lived experiences' can't be used as any meaningful metric. Because they are just that, individual. There are similarly to statistics multip reasons your lived experiences can be 'wrong'.

If a statistic was contrary to your relevant, lived experience would you not question it?

Or would you just blindly accept it?

 

[youngbob]

Just to address your last paragraph...
I'm a socialist and an Asian man. The reason I breathe a sigh of relief when it's a white person or British national as you say is cuz there will be way less heat on us. If you didn't catch that, there will be less chance of being racially or physically abused. Nothing to do with my politics at all!

My wife is British South Asian and from a family of refugees and immigrants, so I'm breathing the same sigh of relief - trust me. There's a guy five doors down from my house with a Reform poster in his window.

There are Union Flags and St George's Crosses everywhere round our neighborhood. In 2024 during the riots she didn't go outside at all.

That still doesn't excuse the fact that there are - and always are - white people on the left (it's always on social media) who have taken joy from killers and attackers being British nationals.

There should be no joy, of any kind, derived from a mass attack. There is a difference between expressing relief that the attackers are British and actually celebrating this information. That's why I made sure to distinguish between the two.

 

[west didsblue]

Suspect named as Anthony Williams from Peterborough.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Suspect named as Anthony Williams from Peterborough.

Noooo - he was supposed to be called Mustapha and be from Afghanistan wasn't he?

 

[The blue phantom]

Noooo - he was supposed to be called Mustapha and be from Afghanistan wasn't he?

It truly was mind boggling reading those post as the whole ordeal was being played out. Never seen as many posters already having made their mind up on what had accured and who the perpetrators were. Credit to Ric & Cleavers for monitoring the thread and cleaning it up. Thing is they'll do the same next time it happens too.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I agree mate! Should come out instantly. But the legal process should not bend to suit the needs of 'trial by social media' or just to combat misinformation. The authorities have a protocol for releasing info for a reason. I guess the government needs to come down much harder on social media misinformation...

I think it would have been a lot worse if the police had issued a statement hurriedly only to have to correct it a few hours later after checking backgrounds and the like.

The attack was about 19:40 in the evening, anything after 10 pm would achieve little that couldn't wait.

As a separate point, I approved hugely that the statement was given and no questions were taken. Don't allow for mis-speaking and skewed interpretation of answers on the fly.
Also the defence secretary refused to engage with Kuennsberg asking hypotheticals, just saying 'wait for the police'. It's not as if he knew, should have known, or was likely up-to-date with details. I think Badenoch used the same straight bat in this instance.

 

[Blue Hefner]

What does being British prove or not prove though?

Most of the attacks we have had over the last 15 years or so have been committed by people born in the uk. You could maybe argue there is an issue with people integrating or second/third generation immigrants not feeling like a part of wider society?

It feels like this point about the attacker being British born, is mainly being said to silence the racists (as they should be) but it doesn’t really solve the issue we clearly have.

Feels like the focus is more on randomers online than the actual attack or why it happened. Do you really care what Lee crooks says on Facebook?

My point was about people not even waiting for the most basic of details before starting their well rehearsed arguments about mass deportation

If, as been reported the suspect is a Brit of Caribbean dissent, how would mass deportation solve that? Unless we are going to start rounding up grandads(maybe I shouldn’t given them ideas..)

People seem to want to fire their ‘solution’ before any details have been officially released and I find that tiresome.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Suspect named as Anthony Williams from Peterborough.

doesn’t quite fit the narrative some cunts on here were frothing at the mouth for does it.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Noooo - he was supposed to be called Mustapha and be from Afghanistan wasn't he?

They won’t admit their error. It’ll be a cover up and all that bullshit they come out with. Not necessarily on here, but on socials.

Metro have reported the hero who confronted the attacker is no longer in critical condition. That is excellent news

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Yah.

But, gladly, we don't have guns here for the reason it would make the place even more of the 'Wild West'. You should know by experience...

I mean, you've seen the amount of Gammons on here, champing at the bit to be able to truly let their unedified feelings known!

You don’t have legal guns…

 

[M18CTID]

What does being British prove or not prove though?

Most of the attacks we have had over the last 15 years or so have been committed by people born in the uk. You could maybe argue there is an issue with people integrating or second/third generation immigrants not feeling like a part of wider society?

It feels like this point about the attacker being British born, is mainly being said to silence the racists (as they should be) but it doesn’t really solve the issue we clearly have.

Feels like the focus is more on randomers online than the actual attack or why it happened. Do you really care what Lee crooks says on Facebook?

What we should all care about is that nobody should be going around spreading misinformation on social media as the consequences of that can be dangerous. The Southport murders are testament to that - some randomer thousands of miles away claimed the suspect was a Muslim asylum seeker who had arrived on a boat. That led to riots in Southport and all over the country with Muslims and mosques being targeted. Even when it was disclosed that the perpetrator was a British born national who wasn't a Muslim, people still continued to riot and target the Muslim community plus other persons of colour like the black guy who got beat up in Piccadilly Gardens by a baying mob, and the police also got attacked as well. And all because of some stupid lie that people fell for. Yet many still haven't learnt as the same shit played out on Saturday night following this incident - luckily there haven't been any riots though.

You're absolutely right that being British born or not doesn't lessen or worsen the crime that has been committed but the point people are trying to make is that it's not helpful to jump to conclusions and spread them all over social media. I'm guessing that Lee Crooks doesn't have a huge social media following but neither did the randomer who came out with the lie about the Southport killer. Once it's out there it has the potential to go viral.

 

[Earlyriser]

Whenever an incident of major national impact occurs the discussion programmes that fill our media come up with the most absurd topics for discussion. Today's prize goes to ' Should we have police presence on every train'. I will leave you all to work out the logistics on this one.

 

[bluethrunthru]

They won’t admit their error. It’ll be a cover up and all that bullshit they come out with. Not necessarily on here, but on socials.

Metro have reported the hero who confronted the attacker is no longer in critical condition. That is excellent news

who won't own up to what error?

 

[M18CTID]

They won’t admit their error. It’ll be a cover up and all that bullshit they come out with. Not necessarily on here, but on socials.

Metro have reported the hero who confronted the attacker is no longer in critical condition. That is excellent news

Yep, fantastic news. And yet these train companies are looking at getting rid of guards off trains and shite like that. Also, as someone else said, these whoppers who slag off the wages that train drivers earn need to fuck right off.

 

[M18CTID]

who won't own up to what error?

He's referring to all those who spread false information about the attacker and many of those who fell for it

 

[bluethrunthru]

You don’t have legal guns…

There are guns that are legally held in the UK

 

[Coatigan]

If a statistic was contrary to your relevant, lived experience would you not question it?

Or would you just blindly accept it?

Of course I would, and do question it.

I don't however dismiss the entire principle.

Anyway, I'll actually bow out of this one as I might not have much meaningful to contribute.