Huntingdon Train Incident - Reports of multiple stabbings

What we should all care about is that nobody should be going around spreading misinformation on social media as the consequences of that can be dangerous. The Southport murders are testament to that - some randomer thousands of miles away claimed the suspect was a Muslim asylum seeker who had arrived on a boat. That led to riots in Southport and all over the country with Muslims and mosques being targeted. Even when it was disclosed that the perpetrator was a British born national who wasn't a Muslim, people still continued to riot and target the Muslim community plus other persons of colour like the black guy who got beat up in Piccadilly Gardens by a baying mob, and the police also got attacked as well. And all because of some stupid lie that people fell for. Yet many still haven't learnt as the same shit played out on Saturday night following this incident - luckily there haven't been any riots though.

You're absolutely right that being British born or not doesn't lessen or worsen the crime that has been committed but the point people are trying to make is that it's not helpful to jump to conclusions and spread them all over social media. I'm guessing that Lee Crooks doesn't have a huge social media following but neither did the randomer who came out with the lie about the Southport killer. Once it's out there it has the potential to go viral.
I agree. We should be doing everything we can to stop misinformation spreading and going viral. For me though I tend to not follow or look at random Twitter posts, often by conspiracy theorist.

The best way to stop misinformation spreading is to not use platforms like that in my view.

That is a separate issue for me though. The focus should be on the attacker and preventing mass murder from happening in this case.
 
It truly was mind boggling reading those post as the whole ordeal was being played out. Never seen as many posters already having made their mind up on what had accured and who the perpetrators were. Credit to Ric & Cleavers for monitoring the thread and cleaning it up. Thing is they'll do the same next time it happens too.
A case for a permanent ban for anyone willing to spread such misinformation?
 
I think it would have been a lot worse if the police had issued a statement hurriedly only to have to correct it a few hours later after checking backgrounds and the like.

The attack was about 19:40 in the evening, anything after 10 pm would achieve little that couldn't wait.

As a separate point, I approved hugely that the statement was given and no questions were taken. Don't allow for mis-speaking and skewed interpretation of answers on the fly.
Also the defence secretary refused to engage with Kuennsberg asking hypotheticals, just saying 'wait for the police'. It's not as if he knew, should have known, or was likely up-to-date with details. I think Badenoch used the same straight bat in this instance.
Not Philp though. Car crash on his advocating "stop and search without any cause for suspicion". Given the amount of traces of cocaine found in the Houses of Parliament I'd start with MPs...
 
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I think the British government has moved incredibly fast.
They have, no doubt on public order grounds, ordered the police to release one of the guilty Islamic attackers and told the press to report he was British and innocent.
The other Islamic jihadist is as we speak, having a fake profile invented to show he is British, of no particular religion and his mum can't believe this has happened.
This swift action stopped any riots happening and by the time the lie is exposed by Nigel and Tommy, as it's cold and raining 5,000 British patriots won't take to the streets.
British politicians at their finest.
 
I think the British government has moved incredibly fast.
They have, no doubt on public order grounds, ordered the police to release one of the guilty Islamic attackers and told the press to report he was British and innocent.
The other Islamic jihadist is as we speak, having a fake profile invented to show he is British, of no particular religion and his mum can't believe this has happened.
This swift action stopped any riots happening and by the time the lie is exposed by Nigel and Tommy, as it's cold and raining 5,000 British patriots won't take to the streets.
British politicians at their finest.
Jesus wept.
 
Philp?
Not seen that
(Sorry to have to quote X)



"We need a substantial increase in stop and search. Those objecting based on concerns about racial disproportionality must explain why they think the Huntingdon perpetrators should not have been stopped and searched if encountered."

How stupid is that? Stop and search someone who's wielding a knife? Or just any black person boarding a train?
 
I think the British government has moved incredibly fast.
They have, no doubt on public order grounds, ordered the police to release one of the guilty Islamic attackers and told the press to report he was British and innocent.
The other Islamic jihadist is as we speak, having a fake profile invented to show he is British, of no particular religion and his mum can't believe this has happened.
This swift action stopped any riots happening and by the time the lie is exposed by Nigel and Tommy, as it's cold and raining 5,000 British patriots won't take to the streets.
British politicians at their finest.
I’m quite happy to look stupid here, so can you tell me if this is a joke?
 
I think the British government has moved incredibly fast.
They have, no doubt on public order grounds, ordered the police to release one of the guilty Islamic attackers and told the press to report he was British and innocent.
The other Islamic jihadist is as we speak, having a fake profile invented to show he is British, of no particular religion and his mum can't believe this has happened.
This swift action stopped any riots happening and by the time the lie is exposed by Nigel and Tommy, as it's cold and raining 5,000 British patriots won't take to the streets.
British politicians at their finest.
Hello Elon.
 
Everyone who was pushing that narrative is long gone from the thread and waiting for their next opportunity.

To its far extent, maybe so.

But there is a whole swathe of middle ground inbetween that however, and some fairly intelligent and generally balanced people did indeed jump to the same conclusion, and/or believe the initial claims.

Being completely honest, I include myself in that. I didn't say anything of the sort, not out of any real intellect, more just not wanting to feel distasteful or maybe some gut empathy. But I admit it, I mostly expected the early claims to turn out true at some point, and for the information when released to back that. As much as I did hold my nerve and suggest waiting, and I respect the process and a sequence, a big part of me did default to what is unfortunately too a commonplace occurance to feel like an obvious go-to.

There will be others, and rather than rubbing it in their faces and them in turn being defensive about it, there is no harm in acknowledging it, and the context we are living in.

It may be the only way we as a society incrementally learn how to deal with unfolding news, because this division and appettite to use/misuse any significant event to further reinforce competing stances and use them for political gain isn't going away any time soon.
 

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