I don't want England to go any further in the WC!

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Sorry but what a load of bollocks. I couldn't give a toss if the players are the biggest bunch of tw*ts going they are representing my country. I am English and as such I want any English team to win anything be it football, darts, tiddlywinks or fucking pissing straight.
 
If the manager changes his tactics and stops playing Emile Heskey then we can still go far. Who plays 4-4-2 these days, and who thinks Heskey is an international footballer? We need to revert to a 4-2-3-1 formation with Cole on the left, SWP on the right, and Steven Gerrard playing in behind Rooney.

This 100% we have the players lets get them in the correct positions from the start.
 
What a waste of a position so, leave it to someone else. The English players hate their fans, (kinda) they've actually said that they prefer playing away from home. Most of ye hate, or one word, "detest" the English team so why bother going.

I mean all ye do is moan, no wonder the English fans get so much grief and bad reps.

And those who booed last night, ya Rooney was out of line, shouldn't have said what he said, but he was frustrated, not much of an excuse, but calling the English fans out for booing was kinda funny.

Not sure there's a country out there who berates their team as much as English fans do to the England team, maybe France. Which says a lot.
Can't blame the English team for getting frustrated when they've no backing at home whatsoever, and with people waiting for them to fail. So much for getting behind the team, only to try and stab them in the back. I'd find that difficult to play in front of as well.

I mean what did ye think was going to happen? Ye'd go win the World Cup, that's delusional. What ye're annoyed because ye've been shite, so what, join the increasing list of top international teams at the world cup.

Name me a top side, besides Argentina, who has in anyway lived up to their name and hype so far? Not Spain, Germany lost, Holland have been dire, France are appauling, Brazil were ok at best...etc the list goes on and on. No ones been good. Not many fans have booed their team. But each to his own I guess.

The world cup is supposed to be just about the journey and the party, and one or two teams might be good enough to win it. But if teams only went because they thought they were going to win than there'd be about 5 teams in the competition, and everyone would be miserable.
But at the end of the day, that's not really what it's about. It's a pity that ye don't understand that.
 
IrishMacca said:
What a waste of a position so, leave it to someone else. The English players hate their fans, (kinda) they've actually said that they prefer playing away from home. Most of ye hate, or one word, "detest" the English team so why bother going.

I mean all ye do is moan, no wonder the English fans get so much grief and bad reps.

And those who booed last night, ya Rooney was out of line, shouldn't have said what he said, but he was frustrated, not much of an excuse, but calling the English fans out for booing was kinda funny.

Not sure there's a country out there who berates their team as much as English fans do to the England team, maybe France. Which says a lot.
Can't blame the English team for getting frustrated when they've no backing at home whatsoever, and with people waiting for them to fail. So much for getting behind the team, only to try and stab them in the back. I'd find that difficult to play in front of as well.

I mean what did ye think was going to happen? Ye'd go win the World Cup, that's delusional. What ye're annoyed because ye've been shite, so what, join the increasing list of top international teams at the world cup.

Name me a top side, besides Argentina, who has in anyway lived up to their name and hype so far? Not Spain, Germany lost, Holland have been dire, France are appauling, Brazil were ok at best...etc the list goes on and on. No ones been good. Not many fans have booed their team. But each to his own I guess.

The world cup is supposed to be just about the journey and the party, and one or two teams might be good enough to win it. But if teams only went because they thought they were going to win than there'd be about 5 teams in the competition, and everyone would be miserable.
But at the end of the day, that's not really what it's about. It's a pity that ye don't understand that.
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Usual bollocks uttered by you. Well done.

Out of order you say. They pay several thousand pounds to go and watch their national side play football. Don't you think they deserve a little passion from the players? A will to win? You would not understand and why wouldn't you support Rooney anyway? He plays for your favourite club.

Do the forum a favour and leave eh?

ps - How would an Irish fan know what thge world cup is about? How often are you involved? It is like me trying to explain what a lesbian orgy is all about just because I have seen a few films of it. Do one.
 
I always hope England get knocked out until about the QF (by which time we've not underachieved so I can start supporting them).

It's far too amusing to watch a whole counrties false hopes collapse, and listen to grown men cry on the radio.
 
SWP's back said:
IrishMacca said:
What a waste of a position so, leave it to someone else. The English players hate their fans, (kinda) they've actually said that they prefer playing away from home. Most of ye hate, or one word, "detest" the English team so why bother going.

I mean all ye do is moan, no wonder the English fans get so much grief and bad reps.

And those who booed last night, ya Rooney was out of line, shouldn't have said what he said, but he was frustrated, not much of an excuse, but calling the English fans out for booing was kinda funny.

Not sure there's a country out there who berates their team as much as English fans do to the England team, maybe France. Which says a lot.
Can't blame the English team for getting frustrated when they've no backing at home whatsoever, and with people waiting for them to fail. So much for getting behind the team, only to try and stab them in the back. I'd find that difficult to play in front of as well.

I mean what did ye think was going to happen? Ye'd go win the World Cup, that's delusional. What ye're annoyed because ye've been shite, so what, join the increasing list of top international teams at the world cup.

Name me a top side, besides Argentina, who has in anyway lived up to their name and hype so far? Not Spain, Germany lost, Holland have been dire, France are appauling, Brazil were ok at best...etc the list goes on and on. No ones been good. Not many fans have booed their team. But each to his own I guess.

The world cup is supposed to be just about the journey and the party, and one or two teams might be good enough to win it. But if teams only went because they thought they were going to win than there'd be about 5 teams in the competition, and everyone would be miserable.
But at the end of the day, that's not really what it's about. It's a pity that ye don't understand that.
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Usual bollocks uttered by you. Well done.

Out of order you say. They pay several thousand pounds to go and watch their national side play football. Don't you think they deserve a little passion from the players? A will to win? You would not understand and why wouldn't you support Rooney anyway? He plays for your favourite club.

Do the forum a favour and leave eh?

ps - How would an Irish fan know what thge world cup is about? How often are you involved? It is like me trying to explain what a lesbian orgy is all about just because I have seen a few films of it. Do one.
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Where did I say out of order? Can't even read. I wouldn't understand, please English football knows nothing about passion and I said Rooney was out of line, but again, you can't read so I'm flogging a dead horse.
 
Cheesy said:
It almost hurts me to feel this way. I love my country & am extremely proud to have served in its Armed Forces for over 20 years (albeit we are UK Forces, of course). Yet, because of these twats who represent us (how awful is that?), I have no affinity towards the national football team at all.

I will be supporting Slovenia next game (unbelievably!), in the hope that a failure triggers a sea change in the way in which our footballers view themselves. I will not be holdig my breath though as I feel this current bunch are far too gone, far too full of thier own self importance & far too believing in their own superiority over others (& not just in footballing terms).
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you would have thought that not even qualifying for the last euros would have had this effect but these players are in a bubble. they'll all be looking forward to getting back to england and going to exclusive clubs with their designer gear on and roasting some woman who'll tell them how great they are. ashley cole, john terry and wayne rooney are three who have proved over the last 12 months how they despise any form of criticism. how dare plebs like us question them? we are just the mugs who pay them and who they use to show off to when they score. i don't believe players celebrate with fans, they simply want a decent backdrop for a photo opportunity. didn't see rooney's reaction last night but just saw it now on bbc. what a fucking idiot that man is. the entire nation has proved time and time again that they'll put club allegiances aside if england do the business.
 
maybe im old fashioned but i would rather have 11 average players on the pitch who will chase every ball and run their bollox off for 90mins and lose, than have the so called "golden generation" pissing about on the pitch and blaming pressure, pressure! huh they dont know the meaning of the word.
I was actually thinking as much as i love england and want them to win the world cup, imagine how unbearable it would be to see gods gift john terry being even more "important" than he already is, same with cashley. dont think their heads can get any bigger.

players like james, barry, seany i have respecty for and would love to see them lift the cup.
 
careful not to protect players because of their city connections. david james admitted a few years back that he'd failed to prepare for a friendly away at denmark because he wasn't picked as 1st choice. he should never have played for england again. you can talk about his honesty but does that make it alright?
"i couldn't be arsed but i've admitted it so it's ok."
i fear this is the attitude of several of our players who think that talent is measurable by wealth.
 
no way its not because of city connections but u tell me another england player that hasnt cheated, or thinks they are better than everyone or goes partying with the "do you know who i am" attitude.

ok add crouchy to my list there he seems very genuine also.
 
IrishMacca said:
What a waste of a position so, leave it to someone else. The English players hate their fans, (kinda) they've actually said that they prefer playing away from home. Most of ye hate, or one word, "detest" the English team so why bother going.

I mean all ye do is moan, no wonder the English fans get so much grief and bad reps.

And those who booed last night, ya Rooney was out of line, shouldn't have said what he said, but he was frustrated, not much of an excuse, but calling the English fans out for booing was kinda funny.

Not sure there's a country out there who berates their team as much as English fans do to the England team, maybe France. Which says a lot.
Can't blame the English team for getting frustrated when they've no backing at home whatsoever, and with people waiting for them to fail. So much for getting behind the team, only to try and stab them in the back. I'd find that difficult to play in front of as well.

I mean what did ye think was going to happen? Ye'd go win the World Cup, that's delusional. What ye're annoyed because ye've been shite, so what, join the increasing list of top international teams at the world cup.

Name me a top side, besides Argentina, who has in anyway lived up to their name and hype so far? Not Spain, Germany lost, Holland have been dire, France are appauling, Brazil were ok at best...etc the list goes on and on. No ones been good. Not many fans have booed their team. But each to his own I guess.

The world cup is supposed to be just about the journey and the party, and one or two teams might be good enough to win it. But if teams only went because they thought they were going to win than there'd be about 5 teams in the competition, and everyone would be miserable.
But at the end of the day, that's not really what it's about. It's a pity that ye don't understand that.
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Can we not have an exclusive forum for this rag apologist were only him and mufcdave can read each others shit?
 
Blue Smarties said:
I want us to get fucked over in our final game then get hired to be the gaffer for fuck all and I'll win us the Euro with inform players and young talent. Sorted.

-------------------------Hart----------------------------
--Johnson--Onouha(Pace)--Shawcross--(Strength)--Gibbs--
-----------------------Cattermole-----------------------
-----------Rodwell-------------------Milner--------------
----Wilshere-----------------------------------AJ--------
----------------------Sturridge--------------------------


Fuck what the media would think of my team, they'd do better than this lot.
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Ya know what, I really loike the look of this side! Lots of good technical players who can ball carry and beat opponents.
I'm Irish so I'll go easy on Englands performance at the WC but I do think that the whole setup is jinxed. The England players seem to be scared shitless when they ull on the shirt even when playing against the 'minor' teams, Heskey in my opinion does not offer anything to the side other than physical presence. Crouch IMO, offers more to the side. Lamps or Gerard don't do it together. Capello should drop lamps. Everyone is taking about Gerard playin off Shrek, I think Fabio should free up rooney allowing him a free role off Crouch while playing 4-4-2. If he had any balls at all he would have gone 4-3-3 against Algeria, all the talk about before the game was about Barrys return but he's a defensive midfielder and yet he was intended to be the difference against a poxy Algerian side. They should have siezed the initiative and tried to make a statement, perhaps take a gamble and put Crouch up front with Rooney and Defore playing off him, swithching sides and confusing the Algerian back four. Get 3 good ball playing midfielders in behind these front three, my pick being Gerard, J.Cole and Milner, maybe Barry to anchor instead of Milner. Tell the midfield to get the ball in to the feet of Defo and rooney. If the current side is struggling so much against teams like the USA and Algeria, then what will happen when the run into the Argies or the Dutch for example? On current team form they will be played off the pitch. I think England are better then this but they need to get their heads out of their arses.
Another big concern is Carragher. He has been a defensive rock for years but over the past 12months time, and long seasons have caught up with him. He is now a fairly big defensive risk. His pace is totally gone, I noticed how everytime the camera points at him he appears sweating buckets and f**ked tired. I think he will struggle against any forward with speed to burn and opposition managers will easily identify this weekness, I bet Slovenia's centre forward Ljubijankic will be given direct orders to run at Carragher every chance he gets. If I was Capello this would be my biggest concern for the game and I'd be thinking hard about what to do about it. Dawson's slow but I think it might be time to start him against the Slovenians in order to give him some WC match experience alongside Terry, they will need to, because, if England beat Slovenia and continue then with Carra at the back they will be destroyed in the 2nd stage. (IMO)
 
citygal1 said:
no way its not because of city connections but u tell me another england player that hasnt cheated, or thinks they are better than everyone or goes partying with the "do you know who i am" attitude.

ok add crouchy to my list there he seems very genuine also.
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All right about protecting the City players, but Gerrard for me seemed geniunely like he wanted to lead, and he did well in the interview afterwards, putting the blame rightly where it belongs, in the players court.

But they've all cheated, City players included, it's the norm unfortunately.
 
citygal1 said:
no way its not because of city connections but u tell me another england player that hasnt cheated, or thinks they are better than everyone or goes partying with the "do you know who i am" attitude.

ok add crouchy to my list there he seems very genuine also.
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i would say that england players worthy of total respect are hart, green, upson, dawson, gaz baz, lennon ?, crouch, carrick. the rest have all acted the twat one way or another in the past.
 
citygal1 said:
maybe im old fashioned but i would rather have 11 average players on the pitch who will chase every ball and run their bollox off for 90mins and lose, than have the so called "golden generation" pissing about on the pitch and blaming pressure, pressure! huh they dont know the meaning of the word.
I was actually thinking as much as i love england and want them to win the world cup, imagine how unbearable it would be to see gods gift john terry being even more "important" than he already is, same with cashley. dont think their heads can get any bigger.

players like james, barry, seany i have respecty for and would love to see them lift the cup.
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Where have you been all my life? ;)
 
The last time my support of the England team matched anything like that of City was in Italy in 1990.

Since then I have gone from a rabid, passionate flag waving fan to sort of mildly interested.

The English premier league started in 1992.

I don't know for sure but I think that that is not a coincidence.
 
blueinsa said:
IrishMacca said:
What a waste of a position so, leave it to someone else. The English players hate their fans, (kinda) they've actually said that they prefer playing away from home. Most of ye hate, or one word, "detest" the English team so why bother going.

I mean all ye do is moan, no wonder the English fans get so much grief and bad reps.

And those who booed last night, ya Rooney was out of line, shouldn't have said what he said, but he was frustrated, not much of an excuse, but calling the English fans out for booing was kinda funny.

Not sure there's a country out there who berates their team as much as English fans do to the England team, maybe France. Which says a lot.
Can't blame the English team for getting frustrated when they've no backing at home whatsoever, and with people waiting for them to fail. So much for getting behind the team, only to try and stab them in the back. I'd find that difficult to play in front of as well.

I mean what did ye think was going to happen? Ye'd go win the World Cup, that's delusional. What ye're annoyed because ye've been shite, so what, join the increasing list of top international teams at the world cup.

Name me a top side, besides Argentina, who has in anyway lived up to their name and hype so far? Not Spain, Germany lost, Holland have been dire, France are appauling, Brazil were ok at best...etc the list goes on and on. No ones been good. Not many fans have booed their team. But each to his own I guess.

The world cup is supposed to be just about the journey and the party, and one or two teams might be good enough to win it. But if teams only went because they thought they were going to win than there'd be about 5 teams in the competition, and everyone would be miserable.
But at the end of the day, that's not really what it's about. It's a pity that ye don't understand that.
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Can we not have an exclusive forum for this rag apologist were only him and mufcdave can read each others shit?
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Surely a ban is far easier for Damocles?
 
IrishMacca said:
What a waste of a position so, leave it to someone else. The English players hate their fans, (kinda) they've actually said that they prefer playing away from home. Most of ye hate, or one word, "detest" the English team so why bother going.

I mean all ye do is moan, no wonder the English fans get so much grief and bad reps.

And those who booed last night, ya Rooney was out of line, shouldn't have said what he said, but he was frustrated, not much of an excuse, but calling the English fans out for booing was kinda funny.

Not sure there's a country out there who berates their team as much as English fans do to the England team, maybe France. Which says a lot.
Can't blame the English team for getting frustrated when they've no backing at home whatsoever, and with people waiting for them to fail. So much for getting behind the team, only to try and stab them in the back. I'd find that difficult to play in front of as well.

I mean what did ye think was going to happen? Ye'd go win the World Cup, that's delusional. What ye're annoyed because ye've been shite, so what, join the increasing list of top international teams at the world cup.

Name me a top side, besides Argentina, who has in anyway lived up to their name and hype so far? Not Spain, Germany lost, Holland have been dire, France are appauling, Brazil were ok at best...etc the list goes on and on. No ones been good. Not many fans have booed their team. But each to his own I guess.

The world cup is supposed to be just about the journey and the party, and one or two teams might be good enough to win it. But if teams only went because they thought they were going to win than there'd be about 5 teams in the competition, and everyone would be miserable.
But at the end of the day, that's not really what it's about. It's a pity that ye don't understand that.
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The problem with some of the England players is that they think they are the journey and the party. I always used to say to teams I coached, particularly the beaten ones(!) that if we didn't enter, and teams like us, there wouldn't be a competition. But if you are at the party, even as a guest, the important thing is to show your talents and skills. Rooney showed the bleakest of bad manners, but I'm not surprised in the slightest. Teams like Algeria, New Zealand, Slovenia and the like, will be busting a gut to win a match. I haven't seen much evidence of that approach from the England team as a whole.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
IrishMacca said:
What a waste of a position so, leave it to someone else. The English players hate their fans, (kinda) they've actually said that they prefer playing away from home. Most of ye hate, or one word, "detest" the English team so why bother going.

I mean all ye do is moan, no wonder the English fans get so much grief and bad reps.

And those who booed last night, ya Rooney was out of line, shouldn't have said what he said, but he was frustrated, not much of an excuse, but calling the English fans out for booing was kinda funny.

Not sure there's a country out there who berates their team as much as English fans do to the England team, maybe France. Which says a lot.
Can't blame the English team for getting frustrated when they've no backing at home whatsoever, and with people waiting for them to fail. So much for getting behind the team, only to try and stab them in the back. I'd find that difficult to play in front of as well.

I mean what did ye think was going to happen? Ye'd go win the World Cup, that's delusional. What ye're annoyed because ye've been shite, so what, join the increasing list of top international teams at the world cup.

Name me a top side, besides Argentina, who has in anyway lived up to their name and hype so far? Not Spain, Germany lost, Holland have been dire, France are appauling, Brazil were ok at best...etc the list goes on and on. No ones been good. Not many fans have booed their team. But each to his own I guess.

The world cup is supposed to be just about the journey and the party, and one or two teams might be good enough to win it. But if teams only went because they thought they were going to win than there'd be about 5 teams in the competition, and everyone would be miserable.
But at the end of the day, that's not really what it's about. It's a pity that ye don't understand that.
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The problem with some of the England players is that they think they are the journey and the party. I always used to say to teams I coached, particularly the beaten ones(!) that if we didn't enter, and teams like us, there wouldn't be a competition. But if you are at the party, even as a guest, the important thing is to show your talents and skills. Rooney showed the bleakest of bad manners, but I'm not surprised in the slightest. Teams like Algeria, New Zealand, Slovenia and the like, will be busting a gut to win a match. I haven't seen much evidence of that approach from the England team as a whole.
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Because to a player they are overpaid and are used to getting their way, Rooney threw a strop on tv infront of the entire world, because he wasn't playing well..but at the end of the day, it's no ones fault but his own, there are other pressures and such which I imagine he's feeling. But he's used to being treated as a God to an extent and can do no wrong and then he's booed. He should have been apologising than crying and bitching about fans who paid all kinds of money to get there. I'm not one for booing teams, but that's just me. Other teams have played shite and not many of them have been booed with their fans drowning out the horns, but that's English fans for ya and surely he knows that by now. He's what, 24/25, he's not a kid anymore, he needs to grow up. Last time he had the excuse of lack of experience and age on his side, but now he's expected to behave in a professional manner and he didn't. At this rate the only one I think could sort him out is Fergie and I hardly see him jumping onto a plane to help the English team.

They're just spoiled, modern day brats half of them. The likes of Tevez and the other Argentina lads run their socks off and even the underdogs give it their best, I mean that's why we do well enough if we got to the world cup, because we've heart and we really give it a go.

These English players have had it too good and don't have the stomach for a real dirty fight in the mud. I do think they'll come through with their back up against the wall, they've enough professional players in there to put in the performance. I do think ye've the best possible captain though that's available to ye. And that can only help.
 
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