I hate some City fans

[hgblue]

Alternatively, you could say that some posters get panned for pointing out the 'bleeding obvious' (ie. Dzeko looks a bit off the pace), and that disappointing performances are met with critical reactions both at the match and on here. I'd say we were perfectly normal as football fans go, and no different to fans of other teams up and down the country imo. Some people on here will brook no criticism of the manager, the team in general, or individual players, which would make for one insepid Forum if everyone had the same attitude.

 

[Damocles]

No, we want justified criticism.

Dzeko is looking a bit off pace, I agree. I think it is understandable why he is, and I think that he has the look of a good player, but he hasn't really clicked yet. New league, new team, recent long rest, questionable service, blah, blah.

The problem is that people don't present this argument, they present it in absolutes. "Dzeko is another Jo", "Dzeko is a waste of money", for example.

 

[Jordie]

Controversial maybe but heres my reasons

1. Complaining about a player before they have had a chance. Will we never learn? I could list players that have been questioned before they have played 10 games for the club but it would be pretty much everyone we have signed in the last 2 years.

2. Booing at half time and full time if we arent winning or havent won against "lesser" teams. Results like that happen. We are still on course for our highest ever finish. It doesnt help.

3. Knee jerk reactions, which I suppose is part of one and two, but a couple of bad results does not mean we need to think about changing managers.

Some City fans do my head in as well. In the past I used to think of us as a well grounded, realistic, knowedgable fan base. For some reason I find that many City fans have become arrogant, unrealistic, over reactionary and loads don't let other people have an opinion - it's like you have to be 100% positive or you're a Rag or a ****.

I've been saying all season that we're not gonna be challenging for the title this season at all. We're nowhere near the finished article; we have not had anywhere near enough development time to gel, build a heirarchy, build a togetherness, become a proper team; we've arguably got the most naive and inexperienced squad out of all the top teams (in our starting line-up last night only Yaya and Barry were over 25!); we've got loads of shit fringe players who are either so shit they effect our performances negatively (Vieira/Jô) or don't contribute anything to our season (SWP/Logan); our manager has us playing one style of football, if it's not working we don't adapt to the game, he has to be given time to develop and learn the game over here - this is not Italy, we won't win the league playing like an Italian team.

I've been saying all this for a while yet people get a bit shirty about this sort of outlook. Some think that if I don't say that we've got the best players and the best squad and the best manager and we'll win the league and we're better than United and how the fuck are they top of the league when they're shit and so on... that I'm not a proper blue and I can fuck off. But the reality is none of them things are true. We're the fourth or fifth best team and we'll finish fourth or fifth. Hopefully fourth, I'm not saying I want us to finish fifth, but fourth is a realistic and positive position since this is only really our third season with the Sheikh and only 18months with our new manager. It might be another two years before we're challenging.

On the flip side of the people who think I'm being too negative are the people who expect us to win the league because wee spent X amount of money so they'll boo off the team and the manager and slag everyone of them off all the time.

People need to get real and have a bit of a more realistic view and outlook at
about MCFC under Sheikh Mansour and Roberto Mancini. It won't happen over night and it certainly isn't going to happen this season. So let's try and enjoy what we have and aim to get into this top four this season and see what that brings in the summer!

Well put young man.

 

[SS111]

I agree with all 3. With money brings expectation, but it seems some city fans have took this expectation too far...

 

[GeorgeHeslop'sTackle.]

Controversial maybe but heres my reasons

1. Complaining about a player before they have had a chance. Will we never learn? I could list players that have been questioned before they have played 10 games for the club but it would be pretty much everyone we have signed in the last 2 years.

2. Booing at half time and full time if we arent winning or havent won against "lesser" teams. Results like that happen. We are still on course for our highest ever finish. It doesnt help.

3. Knee jerk reactions, which I suppose is part of one and two, but a couple of bad results does not mean we need to think about changing managers.

Some City fans do my head in as well. In the past I used to think of us as a well grounded, realistic, knowedgable fan base. For some reason I find that many City fans have become arrogant, unrealistic, over reactionary and loads don't let other people have an opinion - it's like you have to be 100% positive or you're a Rag or a ****.

I've been saying all season that we're not gonna be challenging for the title this season at all. We're nowhere near the finished article; we have not had anywhere near enough development time to gel, build a heirarchy, build a togetherness, become a proper team; we've arguably got the most naive and inexperienced squad out of all the top teams (in our starting line-up last night only Yaya and Barry were over 25!); we've got loads of shit fringe players who are either so shit they effect our performances negatively (Vieira/Jô) or don't contribute anything to our season (SWP/Logan); our manager has us playing one style of football, if it's not working we don't adapt to the game, he has to be given time to develop and learn the game over here - this is not Italy, we won't win the league playing like an Italian team.

I've been saying all this for a while yet people get a bit shirty about this sort of outlook. Some think that if I don't say that we've got the best players and the best squad and the best manager and we'll win the league and we're better than United and how the fuck are they top of the league when they're shit and so on... that I'm not a proper blue and I can fuck off. But the reality is none of them things are true. We're the fourth or fifth best team and we'll finish fourth or fifth. Hopefully fourth, I'm not saying I want us to finish fifth, but fourth is a realistic and positive position since this is only really our third season with the Sheikh and only 18months with our new manager. It might be another two years before we're challenging.

On the flip side of the people who think I'm being too negative are the people who expect us to win the league because wee spent X amount of money so they'll boo off the team and the manager and slag everyone of them off all the time.

People need to get real and have a bit of a more realistic view and outlook at
about MCFC under Sheikh Mansour and Roberto Mancini. It won't happen over night and it certainly isn't going to happen this season. So let's try and enjoy what we have and aim to get into this top four this season and see what that brings in the summer!

Agree 100% mate - great post.

 

[talkativesprout]

No you do worse like saying Dzecko is like samaras

Agreed. It would be easier to tolerate the booing than criticism of Dzeko.

That wasnt the point, merely pointing out that the posters opinion hold no credabilty.