MonsallBlue
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MCFC87 said:
And not just on sky. ALL TWATS!!
And I dont care!
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I HATE Tony Pulis
- Thread starter Mr Rich
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And not just on sky. ALL TWATS!!
And I dont care!
Matty
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Pulis, and Stoke, have found a way of competing in the Premiership. They haven't got any funds to speak of so can't really afford top quality players and, due to this, they can't really play open expansive football. So, to compete, they've bought physical battling players, who are much cheaper to buy and plentiful in World Football, narrowed their pitch to prevent the opposition playing football, and use set pieces and long balls alligned with workrate and robust challenges to win games. It's no coincidence that Stoke's results away from The Britannia are so much worse than at home, they won 2 away games last season, and 1 so far this which, when compared with the 10 home games they won last season and 6 so far this, speaks volumes.
Would I want to watch Stoke each week and witness the long ball game, and those Delap throw ins? Of course not, wins or not, it's tedious stuff. As an opposition fan watching his team have to deal with it it's extremely frustrating, it's not entertaining, it's not attractive to watch and, ultimately, it's not football as many believe it should be played. When Delap isn't on the pitch they still play the same way, however they are far less dangerous as they have to actually get relatively near the goal to create chances. When all you've got to do is get a throw-in within 45 yards of the box and it's a goalscoring opportunity (especially on Stoke's minute pitch) it makes it far easier to keep the opposition pegged back and under pressure.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Stoke or Pulis, I find the team/manager objectionable, and their fans collectively backward, but they do what they have to to exist in the Premiership. Personally I'd rather have your Burnleys, Fulhams and Hulls in the Premiership, who actually try and play football, than Stoke, who seem to have forgotten football is a sport where entertainment is supposed to be part of the appeal.
Would I want to watch Stoke each week and witness the long ball game, and those Delap throw ins? Of course not, wins or not, it's tedious stuff. As an opposition fan watching his team have to deal with it it's extremely frustrating, it's not entertaining, it's not attractive to watch and, ultimately, it's not football as many believe it should be played. When Delap isn't on the pitch they still play the same way, however they are far less dangerous as they have to actually get relatively near the goal to create chances. When all you've got to do is get a throw-in within 45 yards of the box and it's a goalscoring opportunity (especially on Stoke's minute pitch) it makes it far easier to keep the opposition pegged back and under pressure.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Stoke or Pulis, I find the team/manager objectionable, and their fans collectively backward, but they do what they have to to exist in the Premiership. Personally I'd rather have your Burnleys, Fulhams and Hulls in the Premiership, who actually try and play football, than Stoke, who seem to have forgotten football is a sport where entertainment is supposed to be part of the appeal.
98GW
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Matty said:Pulis, and Stoke, have found a way of competing in the Premiership. They haven't got any funds to speak of so can't really afford top quality players and, due to this, they can't really play open expansive football. So, to compete, they've bought physical battling players, who are much cheaper to buy and plentiful in World Football, narrowed their pitch to prevent the opposition playing football, and use set pieces and long balls alligned with workrate and robust challenges to win games. It's no coincidence that Stoke's results away from The Britannia are so much worse than at home, they won 2 away games last season, and 1 so far this which, when compared with the 10 home games they won last season and 6 so far this, speaks volumes.
Would I want to watch Stoke each week and witness the long ball game, and those Delap throw ins? Of course not, wins or not, it's tedious stuff. As an opposition fan watching his team have to deal with it it's extremely frustrating, it's not entertaining, it's not attractive to watch and, ultimately, it's not football as many believe it should be played. When Delap isn't on the pitch they still play the same way, however they are far less dangerous as they have to actually get relatively near the goal to create chances. When all you've got to do is get a throw-in within 45 yards of the box and it's a goalscoring opportunity (especially on Stoke's minute pitch) it makes it far easier to keep the opposition pegged back and under pressure.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Stoke or Pulis, I find the team/manager objectionable, and their fans collectively backward, but they do what they have to to exist in the Premiership. Personally I'd rather have your Burnleys, Fulhams and Hulls in the Premiership, who actually try and play football, than Stoke, who seem to have forgotten football is a sport where entertainment is supposed to be part of the appeal.
what do you mean no funds to speak of?
what about the 10 million spent on huth and tuncay form boro?
vonksbignose said:I agree with the stoke fan!
They're entitled to set up their team however the fuck they like & if we can't get the 3 points against them, having spent all the money that we have, then that's our problem, not thier's!
Tony Pulis' job is to keep Stoke City in the Premier League! Not win it! Not qualify for europe, just keep them there, pure & simple! And he's making a rather effective fist of it!
Tony Pulis' job is not to entertain the fans of opposing clubs, or to send out his team of journeymen to play attractive football that would get him admired, relegated & sacked!
Stop moaning everyone, we weren't good enough over the last 2 games against Stoke, nothing more, nothing less!
Shut up you idiot. People are pointing out how bloody awful Stoke are to watch, that's simply a fact.
No one is saying they're not allowed to play that way just pointing out how hideous and lacking in entertainment it is, which at the end of the day is what football is about.
tolmie's hairdoo
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Two words for Tony Pulis.
PAUL DICKOV
end of thread.
PAUL DICKOV
end of thread.
Matty
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Petemeister said:Matty said:Pulis, and Stoke, have found a way of competing in the Premiership. They haven't got any funds to speak of so can't really afford top quality players and, due to this, they can't really play open expansive football. So, to compete, they've bought physical battling players, who are much cheaper to buy and plentiful in World Football, narrowed their pitch to prevent the opposition playing football, and use set pieces and long balls alligned with workrate and robust challenges to win games. It's no coincidence that Stoke's results away from The Britannia are so much worse than at home, they won 2 away games last season, and 1 so far this which, when compared with the 10 home games they won last season and 6 so far this, speaks volumes.
Would I want to watch Stoke each week and witness the long ball game, and those Delap throw ins? Of course not, wins or not, it's tedious stuff. As an opposition fan watching his team have to deal with it it's extremely frustrating, it's not entertaining, it's not attractive to watch and, ultimately, it's not football as many believe it should be played. When Delap isn't on the pitch they still play the same way, however they are far less dangerous as they have to actually get relatively near the goal to create chances. When all you've got to do is get a throw-in within 45 yards of the box and it's a goalscoring opportunity (especially on Stoke's minute pitch) it makes it far easier to keep the opposition pegged back and under pressure.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Stoke or Pulis, I find the team/manager objectionable, and their fans collectively backward, but they do what they have to to exist in the Premiership. Personally I'd rather have your Burnleys, Fulhams and Hulls in the Premiership, who actually try and play football, than Stoke, who seem to have forgotten football is a sport where entertainment is supposed to be part of the appeal.
what do you mean no funds to speak of?
what about the 10 million spent on huth and tuncay form boro?
In modern football £10m spent on a couple of players isn't really a huge amount. Yes they've got more than, say, Burnley or Hull, but that's why Stoke aren't in a relegation battle and those two are. Bolton have got similar funds to Stoke (Elmander cost in the region of £10m) and they too play dull, uninspiring football.
Dr.Faustus
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<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2001/apr/27/newsstory.sport1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2001 ... ory.sport1</a>
Mr Rich
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Dr.Faustus said:http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2001/apr/27/newsstory.sport1
Helped to back up my hatred of the man even further.
Love the paragraph - 'Pulis then produced a nine-page document marked Wycombe Wanderers from his shorts. He had put it there he said because he had no pockets.' - what a...
mancboy123
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I think what some of our fans and the Stoke fans are forgetting is that for all their bluster and for all Tony Pullis negative bullying tactics. We have played crap against them for 3 games now, they have played their heart out for 3 games ( 2 of those games with us missing bellamy, tevez and arguably our first choice centre back in kompany ) and they STILL havent beat us.
The Beast 111
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That fella is clearly not in stoke! He has a pc!!!