i know that this has to be my decision but i just need some help. ive just left school and im expecting quite good gcse results, and i have always planned to go to college and uni after school, but ive never really known what i want to do at the end of it. Over the summer ive been working in the offices at an engineering company that is growing quite well but never planned to stay as the job im doing isnt one that will really go far its just updating spreadsheets and making delivery notes, invoices etc. but now they have asked me whether i will do a apprentership in IT, at first i will be doing the same job i am now, but they eventually want me to start to take the it work on and be an It manager. There is noone there who does this job at the minute and the It work is contracted out but they are supposed to be getting a new system put in and theywant me to start dealing with the company that will do the IT work and eventually pick it up. I dont know what to do though, i dont want to be left without enough qualifications in the future, or for the job to never go far enough and be stuck in what im doing now, but if i go through college and uni i might not find a job anyway. any help is appreciated
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MCFC-alan88
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If you take the apprenticeship, not only will you be gaining experience, but the odds are good that the company will send you on relevant courses. I went the apprenticeship route after college, purely because I can't do the sitting in the classroom thing.
I work in IT, as a developer.
Go to Uni, for the love of God. Firstly, you will have the qualification for life. If you lose that job, you're buggered, employers often speak bollocks concerning future plans to get you to sign on the dotted line.
In a few years, you will be in the job market with experience, and will be competing with people who have a degree AND experience.
Also, University isn't just about the studying. You do a lot of maturing there, intellectually and socially. The broadness of your knowledge will be far better, as will the depth. In a few years, you will be glad you did. Don't take the money now, you are losing money in the long term.
Go to Uni, for the love of God. Firstly, you will have the qualification for life. If you lose that job, you're buggered, employers often speak bollocks concerning future plans to get you to sign on the dotted line.
In a few years, you will be in the job market with experience, and will be competing with people who have a degree AND experience.
Also, University isn't just about the studying. You do a lot of maturing there, intellectually and socially. The broadness of your knowledge will be far better, as will the depth. In a few years, you will be glad you did. Don't take the money now, you are losing money in the long term.
Gelsons Dad
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Damocles said:I work in IT, as a developer.
Go to Uni, for the love of God. Firstly, you will have the qualification for life. If you lose that job, you're buggered, employers often speak bollocks concerning future plans to get you to sign on the dotted line.
In a few years, you will be in the job market with experience, and will be competing with people who have a degree AND experience.
Also, University isn't just about the studying. You do a lot of maturing there, intellectually and socially. The broadness of your knowledge will be far better, as will the depth. In a few years, you will be glad you did. Don't take the money now, you are losing money in the long term.
Correct answer.
bananamilksheikh
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If you take the job option, insist on day release at college to do an HNC then a degree. That way you will not lose out academically. Remember the company have half an eye on a cheap employee who can do all the tasks you are currently doing as well as seeing you as a potential manager. The company could go downhill and you will never be indispensible.
Being a full time student is the option I would go for. Two+ months off for summer and party, party, party. You have loads of time to work. You can even work at that company in you holidays if possible.
Being a full time student is the option I would go for. Two+ months off for summer and party, party, party. You have loads of time to work. You can even work at that company in you holidays if possible.
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This is a difficult decision for you and it is your choice. This is mine and my Daughters case study.
I went to University from 1980 -1983. I absolutely hated it and just about scraped a 2/2. There followed two years as one of " Mrs Thatchers kids" on the dole. I finally got a part time job with a Distribution Company loading lorries. From there full time , then in the office, then Assistant Supervisor, Supervisor, Shift Manager. My only other job was as a paperboy. I am now pushing Fifty with my Mortgage paid and praying every day for what all the Lads at work call the " Big R" - Redundancy. I am well aware it would be cheaper to assasinate me, than pay me off.
My Daughter started work for the " Arcadia" group as a " Saturday Girl" at the age of 14. At 18 she face the same choices you are now and decided against University in favour of entering the " Arcadia " Management training scheme. She was the only non - Graduate on the course but 5 years of working in the Business meant that she often left the others behind. Six years later after the Birth of my Grandson she went down to part time hours and has now decided and been given a place at John Moores on a four year Teachingcourse, specialising in Kids with learning difficulties. This was not her choice at 18.
An added bonus to this is I would have had to fork out for some of her Education if she had gone in at your age. Now, she is classed as a Mature Student.
Sometimes decisions can be put off and you make the best out of the hand that you are dealt. Also what you want now might not be what you want in a few years time.
All the best mate and I hope it works out.
I went to University from 1980 -1983. I absolutely hated it and just about scraped a 2/2. There followed two years as one of " Mrs Thatchers kids" on the dole. I finally got a part time job with a Distribution Company loading lorries. From there full time , then in the office, then Assistant Supervisor, Supervisor, Shift Manager. My only other job was as a paperboy. I am now pushing Fifty with my Mortgage paid and praying every day for what all the Lads at work call the " Big R" - Redundancy. I am well aware it would be cheaper to assasinate me, than pay me off.
My Daughter started work for the " Arcadia" group as a " Saturday Girl" at the age of 14. At 18 she face the same choices you are now and decided against University in favour of entering the " Arcadia " Management training scheme. She was the only non - Graduate on the course but 5 years of working in the Business meant that she often left the others behind. Six years later after the Birth of my Grandson she went down to part time hours and has now decided and been given a place at John Moores on a four year Teachingcourse, specialising in Kids with learning difficulties. This was not her choice at 18.
An added bonus to this is I would have had to fork out for some of her Education if she had gone in at your age. Now, she is classed as a Mature Student.
Sometimes decisions can be put off and you make the best out of the hand that you are dealt. Also what you want now might not be what you want in a few years time.
All the best mate and I hope it works out.
squirtyflower
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Damocles is giving you great advice hereDamocles said:I work in IT, as a developer.
Go to Uni, for the love of God. Firstly, you will have the qualification for life. If you lose that job, you're buggered, employers often speak bollocks concerning future plans to get you to sign on the dotted line.
In a few years, you will be in the job market with experience, and will be competing with people who have a degree AND experience.
Also, University isn't just about the studying. You do a lot of maturing there, intellectually and socially. The broadness of your knowledge will be far better, as will the depth. In a few years, you will be glad you did. Don't take the money now, you are losing money in the long term.
mammutly
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Damocles said:I work in IT, as a developer.
Go to Uni, for the love of God. Firstly, you will have the qualification for life. If you lose that job, you're buggered, employers often speak bollocks concerning future plans to get you to sign on the dotted line.
In a few years, you will be in the job market with experience, and will be competing with people who have a degree AND experience.
Also, University isn't just about the studying. You do a lot of maturing there, intellectually and socially. The broadness of your knowledge will be far better, as will the depth. In a few years, you will be glad you did. Don't take the money now, you are losing money in the long term.
There is nothing to be lost by spending a year in the job and potentially a lot to gain.
I went to university at 21 after working in building and a few other things. That brought me a lot more maturity than Uni which is populated by too many people with loads of knowledge but no sense.
My advice is stay in the job for a year and then see. The college/uni option will still be there if you want it.