ID cards.

Why not just integrate it into say the driving licence as well, so you have one once you hit 16 then when you pass your test it gets put on the ID card, I’ve zero problem with it, going into pubs etc could cut underage drinking etc. People don’t seem to have a problem having a passport and when you are in a foreign country you have to have ID, seems over here people worry about nothing.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Why not just integrate it into say the driving licence as well, so you have one once you hit 16 then when you pass your test it gets put on the ID card, I’ve zero problem with it, going into pubs etc could cut underage drinking etc. People don’t seem to have a problem having a passport and when you are in a foreign country you have to have ID, seems over here people worry about nothing.
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My biggest concern is that the people who support this are the very people who would have protested the loudest about it, 10/20 years ago…

Had a Tory MP suggested it, he’d have been thrown out of the conference (Johnson famously said he’d eat it if he was asked to show it).

Also, it’ll do nothing to address the inequalities within the country and will, undoubtedly, lead to the police arresting Mrs Miggins, for not having an ID card!
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Cue the nauseating outrage from the Reform brigade till the next thing to get outraged about.
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Watching on SKY News and some pundit saying Labour had no mandate to do this.

If he was elected in part on a mandate to stop the boats and this is a tool used to clamp down on illegal migration and working on the black market then there is a mandate to do so. Events change and the needs to combat need to adapt to suit.
 
ID cards will be the precursor to digital id and then everybody will be fucked. On a whim they can just turn off your whole life unless you comply with whatever the state demands. You won't be able to buy even a pint of milk as your credit card will be frozen and cash will no longer be accepted. You can't even use cash now inside the Etihad and countless other places. Lockdowns will be easier to impose as they will just ensure your id and credit cards won't work outside the exclusion zone. Easy peasy. We are sleepwalking into a dystopian nightmare. This bloke gets hammered but almost everything he has ever predicted has happened.

 
This is about as much use as his stop the gangs strategy. He really has no idea how the real world works out there. Fujitsu will be licking their lips.
 
Can someone explain to me the pro’s and con’s of these ID cards?

Thanks kindly.
 
paulchapo said:
ID cards will be the precursor to digital id and then everybody will be fucked. On a whim they can just turn off your whole life unless you comply with whatever the state demands. You won't be able to buy even a pint of milk as your credit card will be frozen and cash will no longer be accepted. You can't even use cash now inside the Etihad and countless other places. Lockdowns will be easier to impose as they will just ensure your id and credit cards won't work outside the exclusion zone. Easy peasy. We are sleepwalking into a dystopian nightmare. This bloke gets hammered but almost everything he has ever predicted has happened.

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David Icke? Jesus you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. He's a complete crackpot. Have you seen some of the claims he's made over the last ten years? They are completely bonkers and they are never right
 
paulchapo said:
This bloke gets hammered but almost everything he has ever predicted has happened.
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remind me of the article or news programme in which he proved the Royal Family were lizard people in human skins like some sort of Slitheen nation? I must have missed that.
 
paulchapo said:
ID cards will be the precursor to digital id and then everybody will be fucked. On a whim they can just turn off your whole life unless you comply with whatever the state demands. You won't be able to buy even a pint of milk as your credit card will be frozen and cash will no longer be accepted. You can't even use cash now inside the Etihad and countless other places. Lockdowns will be easier to impose as they will just ensure your id and credit cards won't work outside the exclusion zone. Easy peasy. We are sleepwalking into a dystopian nightmare. This bloke gets hammered but almost everything he has ever predicted has happened.

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It is digital ID in fact they showed it incorporating a driving licence as well on sky news. If it’s used to correctly I have no problem at all with it.
 
Well I have lived in Spain for about 10 years and since Brexit I have had to extend my NIE which is the equivalent of of National Insurance number into a TIE.

This is issued by the Police and is a credit sized card with my photo and fingerprints and part of my passport printed and sealed on this card.
The NIE number also duplicates as my Spanish Taxpayer number.

Absolutely no problems with this as when stopped by the Police checks they know the car insurance status and simply want the TIE to check the photo and know if the driver has a driving licence.

Starting next month visitors to Spain and all other Euro Countries are ha starting to collect passport, fingerprint and photo info so be advised this will be saved and can then check time in Spain so it makes sense UK can and will eventually use this system. My TIE card is the check against the passport .

Sorry if this info duplicates in previous posts

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I've had to have an "ID" card for most of my working life, or I couldn't go to many places I had to for work. I would imagine most people these days are the same, I actually had 3 different ID cards before I retired a couple of months ago, to access different sites. I have to carry a railcard (on my phone) to travel on the train.

If all this was merged into an "ID" card that could be given different access on it then I'd be in favour.
 
I don't know who this will be a vote winner for, or what benefit it provides the country.
 
Dubai Blue said:
It all depends on the purpose and level of functionality. We have them over here and it makes performing all sorts of day-to-day admin tasks an absolute piece of piss, presumably massively reducing overheads and fraud in the process.
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Like what? I've lived in countries where citizens have ID cards and I don't, and I've still be able to do everything I need to with a passport. Granted, a passport is more of a pain to carry around, but I'd say the numbers of 'day-to-day tasks' I've needed it for were opening a bank account, renting a new apartment, getting married, registering for the first time at a hospital, and reporting a stolen thing at the local police station. These are typically things that I only had to do once, and knew to bring my passport in advance. But I imagine once you have an ID card system set up, it's then a lot easier to put a bunch of bureaucracy and checks in place that make them 'necessary.'

I don't really have a huge objection to it, if it genuinely makes things more efficient to the point of saving money compared to the cost of implementing them. But I've not seen any evidence that they will.
 
kippaxwarrior said:
David Icke? Jesus you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. He's a complete crackpot. Have you seen some of the claims he's made over the last ten years? They are completely bonkers and they are never right
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I footnoted him at the end. Have you ever seen any of his interviews or his writing from decades ago or have you just jumped on the media driven crackpot agenda? He actually predicted all.of the things that have actually happened in the last few years. He was talking about digital id being introduced thirty years ago.
 
paulchapo said:
I footnoted him at the end. Have you ever seen any of his interviews or his writing from decades ago or have you just jumped on the media driven crackpot agenda? He actually predicted all.of the things that have actually happened in the last few years. He was talking about digital id being introduced thirty years ago.
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True mate

He also claimed the Queen was a shape shifting reptilian, and people haven't noticed the Queen used to look like this:

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And now she looks like this!

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Whos laughing on Wogan now?!
 
cleavers said:
I've had to have an "ID" card for most of my working life, or I couldn't go to many places I had to for work. I would imagine most people these days are the same, I actually had 3 different ID cards before I retired a couple of months ago, to access different sites. I have to carry a railcard (on my phone) to travel on the train.

If all this was merged into an "ID" card that could be given different access on it then I'd be in favour.
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We're talking a digital identity that is linked to absolutely everything. You have separate passes and identities on cards and your phone for various uses, like your City season ticket if you have one. Get sacked at work? Your id is revoked and won't work. The same with any breach of rules at City. Your pass won't work as it will be cancelled. That all has to be done separately, they are not linked. A digital id will be. They will eventually be able to totally cancel you, as every place will start to demand your digital id for everything. Your bank will be the main one. Once your ability to use your credit card is stopped you will be fucked. Forget cash it won't exist, it is almost obsolete now. It's the thin end of the wedge. As technology improves even more you won't be able to do anything without scanning your digital.id.Cross the government they will just cancel it. You won't be able to buy a pint of milk or drive your car, you'll need to scan your id to start it.
 
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