I sincerely hope not, Garry Cook is one of the best things to happen to this club in recent years. Listen to the interviews, he speaks a lot of sense, and sounds genuinely passionate about the club. We seem to be moving in all the right directions off the pitch, and a lot of that's down to him. Dare i say he's done more in his short time here than he predecessor did in his whole term? I really like the guy.
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IF Hughes Goes Will Cook Go As Well ?
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schtipps said:Corky said:He was just a brand manager, not exactly Thaksin or even Franny Lee. He did not exactly start Nike did he, just a mere employee.
Never heard of Micheal Jordan, is he Irish?
Take a chill pill Corky, whats your gripe man. I'm merely saying that the ability to be a manager is not just restricted to one particular area, its a skill, and those who are successful can probably employ it in others aswell. If anything it's a bonus because the guy knows how to market his shit aswell as being able to run a football club.
Are you on about Hughes?
Brucie Bonus
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Another Hughes out thread?
cyberblue said:I was not untill today . I just cant believe experinced buisness people like our Owners will tolerate this situation any longer & as Hughes was apointed by Cook & Cook is Singing his praises .I think it will be a clean sweepmoomba said:I'm not convinced that one is tied to the other.
To be honest I would expect Cook to be singing his praises whether he was our long term manager, or he was getting sacked tomorrow. Sad, but thats the world we live in now, honesty is a very rare commodity.
Corky said:schtipps said:Take a chill pill Corky, whats your gripe man. I'm merely saying that the ability to be a manager is not just restricted to one particular area, its a skill, and those who are successful can probably employ it in others aswell. If anything it's a bonus because the guy knows how to market his shit aswell as being able to run a football club.
Are you on about Hughes?
No Corky, im on about Garry Cook. I believe that Garry Cook has little to do with the running of the team, MH makes the decisions but his "training team" are the people who influence the team on a day to day basis. MH can be compared to a headmaster when you were at school, he pulls the strings and makes the team selection but relies on his team to deliver on the training ground and basis's his opinion on theirs, if you have to see him, your in the shit.
I don't think Garry Cook will have much contact with the team on a day to day basis and rightly so in my opinion of him as an executive.
Regarding MH, a good manager has to have some distance from the players if he is a decision maker.
schtipps said:I think you'll be eating those words in a few months.
I think that they are both building respect for each other atm. Cook has shown Hughes that he trusts him, its only a matter of time before that respect filters down to the players and we will have a real team on our hands.
The counterview to that is Cook is placing a lot of faith in his decision or at least that is how he protrayed it in the media to appoint the quote " best young manager in the premiership " and naturally he wants to do everything he can to ensure that Hughes is given as much time as possible to help vindicate his belief.
Both arguments carry equal weight IMO buy I suspect if Hughes goes sooner than later Cook will not be too far behind him.
Cook seems good on spin but I have seen little else to indicate to date he can become a first class CEO in the strange world of Premiership Football that doesn't always follow to formula for success in the real business world.
I could be wrong but if he was to be given his marching orders as well I don't think he will stay in Premiership Football.
In saying all that I am sure he wants success for the Club and has big plans for the club particularly under the current ownership but again he will ride or fall on the results of the team by and large.
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That so-called "office boy" is the Executive Chairman of our football club. He has every right to speak to the media about the club's current plight and he's also very good at it, so why not?Kevcod said:I'd like to hear whats going on at my club from the Manager, other than some office boy who should be concentrating on doing his job, rather than being a media darling.
If Hughes was wheeled out to bore us all to death with his uninsightful, monotone durge, you'd complain. So instead, they wheel out a man with excellent PR and communication skills, and you still complain.
Rumours are rife that the manager is on the verge of being sacked. I find it unbelievable that you think the Exceutive Chairman shouldn't come out and comment on the matter. It's very much part of his job.
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i honestly believe in both cook and hughes. i dont think we could get anyone better right now.
we are dropping points but some of the movement and passing in our play has been fantastic, mix that with a bit of steel he had at blackburn and we'll fly up that table.
cook is no lemon. listen to him spread calm over the place, never ruffled.a skilful man.
we are dropping points but some of the movement and passing in our play has been fantastic, mix that with a bit of steel he had at blackburn and we'll fly up that table.
cook is no lemon. listen to him spread calm over the place, never ruffled.a skilful man.
scottyboi said:cyberblue said:I think the only reason Hughes is Still hear is because Cook is Sticking up for him .I think the Owners will soon lose patience with the pair of them
you on a downer or something? i know a few big bridges if you want..................
Where about i am depressed about the whole situation we are a fucking laughing stock?
city51 said:scottyboi said:you on a downer or something? i know a few big bridges if you want..................
Where abouts i am depressed about the whole situation we are a fucking laughing stock?
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Apart from the manager, coaching team, executive chairman, the ticket office and most of the current squad (not forgetting the heavy-handed, fascist pig police) is there anyone else you fancy getting rid of while we've got the chance? Tea lady, coach driver, the accounts office?cyberblue said:I was not untill today . I just cant believe experinced buisness people like our Owners will tolerate this situation any longer & as Hughes was apointed by Cook & Cook is Singing his praises .I think it will be a clean sweepmoomba said:I'm not convinced that one is tied to the other.
If you are who I think you are, you've been whingeing about everything to do with the club for three years.
Experienced business people know that it takes time to change things and that instability isn't good for businesses. That's not to say that they won't act if they feel things aren't changing but they invest for the long term.
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If Hughes goes, Cook will too. Hughes was Cook's choice and he wont accept defeat, the owners will want to bring in their own team.
But heres an idea, im sure theres a word for it, er.....stability? How about nobody goes and we just get on with it.
But heres an idea, im sure theres a word for it, er.....stability? How about nobody goes and we just get on with it.
I don't believe Cook will go if Hughes does. He was extremely sucessful with Nike and ADUG have kept him on and I'm sure they praised him shortly after taking over. Perhaps Hughes was his choice and he's presently sticking up for him. But would you expect anything else? Cook is hardly likely to come out and say "Actually, I've now found out Hughes isn't up to it, he's 1 game left", very unprofessional if he did. For once the club is being run in a professional manner, with things that need to be kept inside the club are kept inside the club.
I am afraid that i a have not whinged about anyone sorry to dissapoint you .I am mearly asking fans on this board what they think .Apart From the Manager i have not advocated getting rid of any one & if he pulled his finger out & done his job a bit better i would be singing his praises.On other posts on here i have praised Gary Cook to the hilt & i have not asked for him to get the sack ,I have supported all the players at various times & will continue to do so What i wont do is Bury my head in the Sand & say every thing is Great when it is ovious to most people that it is not .By the way when did i call the Police ,Heavy Handed Fascist Pig Police .I must have missed that onePrestwich_Blue said:Apart from the manager, coaching team, executive chairman, the ticket office and most of the current squad (not forgetting the heavy-handed, fascist pig police) is there anyone else you fancy getting rid of while we've got the chance? Tea lady, coach driver, the accounts office?cyberblue said:I was not untill today . I just cant believe experinced buisness people like our Owners will tolerate this situation any longer & as Hughes was apointed by Cook & Cook is Singing his praises .I think it will be a clean sweep
If you are who I think you are, you've been whingeing about everything to do with the club for three years.
Experienced business people know that it takes time to change things and that instability isn't good for businesses. That's not to say that they won't act if they feel things aren't changing but they invest for the long term.
S o if i am not who you think i am does that mean i have not been whingeing .? but only if i am who you think i am i have been whingeing ? that is a gemPrestwich_Blue said:Apart from the manager, coaching team, executive chairman, the ticket office and most of the current squad (not forgetting the heavy-handed, fascist pig police) is there anyone else you fancy getting rid of while we've got the chance? Tea lady, coach driver, the accounts office?cyberblue said:I was not untill today . I just cant believe experinced buisness people like our Owners will tolerate this situation any longer & as Hughes was apointed by Cook & Cook is Singing his praises .I think it will be a clean sweep
If you are who I think you are, you've been whingeing about everything to do with the club for three years.
Experienced business people know that it takes time to change things and that instability isn't good for businesses. That's not to say that they won't act if they feel things aren't changing but they invest for the long term.
DontLookBackInAnger
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I doubt it, it doesn't often happen and I wouldn't think this time either.
DontLookBackInAnger
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Balti said:No chance. One scape goat at a time.....
That should be the club's motto, replace "pride in battle"
DontLookBackInAnger said:Balti said:No chance. One scape goat at a time.....
That should be the club's motto, replace "pride in battle"
Good idea! LOL.