Ilkay Gundogan

Proy said:
Playing as a number 10, there is nobody better in my opinion than De Bruyne. He is absolute quality.

I'd also say, that despite our midfield being so fluid now, he isn't directly competing with Silva. Gundogan/Silva and Fernandinho are playing for 2 positions in my opinion.

Sane/Sterling/Nolito and Navas for the wide positions with Aguero up top and Kevin behind.

I think KDB is a shoe in for 90% of our fixtures.

Pep seems to have found a new role for Spanish Dave. A xavi type of position.

Last season we were using 2 holding midfield players which meant that KDB and Silva were directly competing with each other.

Silva has now become part of that 2, even though they are not holding midfielders, if you see what I'm saying.

Look at it this way. Could you imagine the same midfield that we have used so far this season under Manuel? That would have been a fucking car crash in his rigid system.

But now it works. Dave is a bit deeper and working a lot harder.

Ilkay will have the same role as Silva IMO. It's then just a case of who does it better. I've yet to see Gundogan in the PL so it could be difficult, but with my tin hat on here, if you ask me who is the better footballer I'm going to say Gundogan.
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Have you watched any of our games this season? Genuine question.
 
Proy said:
Million and one variations and tbh mate, under Guardiola, I wouldn't put anything past him. If the cap fits he'll wear it he's that tactically able.

Based on what I've seen so far I just think it's a straight shoot out between Ilkay and Silva.

I could be miles away.

I think I know my football. Maybe I'm just shit at it really :-/

We shall see.
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Strangely enough. I think Dihno switches to RB. But based on performance, KDB has been 3rd best so far. But he'd start banging in goals soon and all that will be elementary.

Positionally, @Proy is right Silky Ilkay is best at the position Silva currently plays, and he is a better all round CM than David probably is. But David is probably currently better than KKev at the slightly more advanced role.

But Kev brings an edge that no one else brings. I'm thinking Dihno moves to RB.
 
Dax777 said:
Strangely enough. I think Dihno switches to RB. But based on performance, KDB has been 3rd best so far. But he'd start banging in goals soon and all that will be elementary.

Positionally, @Proy is right Silky Ilkay is best at the position Silva currently plays, and he is a better all round CM than David probably is. But David is probably currently better than KKev at the slightly more advanced role.

But Kev brings an edge that no one else brings. I'm thinking Dihno moves to RB.
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I'm hoping to see Fernandinho get a chance to play in one of the advanced midfield roles, think he'd be devastating as part of the attack.

I also think Gundogan would be better at doing the job that Fernandinho is currently doing simply because his vision and range of passing is superior to Fernandinho's.

It's fun trying to second guess Pep.
 
Proy said:
With my tin hat firmly strapped on for this one.

Silva.

Bring it motherfuckers. I'm ready and lubed.
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You're entitled to that opinion but I cant see any basis to which you've come to that conclusion.
Silva will start.
I should add I'm only talking this fixture. Further down the line I expect Dave to be rested/rotated.
 
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Dax777 said:
Strangely enough. I think Dihno switches to RB. But based on performance, KDB has been 3rd best so far. But he'd start banging in goals soon and all that will be elementary.

Positionally, @Proy is right Silky Ilkay is best at the position Silva currently plays, and he is a better all round CM than David probably is. But David is probably currently better than KKev at the slightly more advanced role.

But Kev brings an edge that no one else brings. I'm thinking Dihno moves to RB.
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I'd say Sterling, Nolito, Silva, Fernandinho and Kolorav have all had better starts to the season than Kev so far.
 
City_Sean said:
Totally agree. On the case of Gundogan, he's looking very sharp in the new CityTV training video. Can't wait to see him in action
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Me too, mate. I can't wait to see him and if it is for Silva so be it. It would surprise me at this stage considering the start he's had. I suppose with him playing all games plus internationals a case could be made to rest him but I wouldn't personally - the man is on fire.
 
I wonder if he'll start instead of KDB who'll have had less time since a game than other midfield options? That would allow Fernandinho to remain in his more defensive role (swapping with Stones etc).

I wonder too if Kompany will start ahead of Otamendi for the same reason and maybe Sané plays instead of Aguero to keep Nolito, Silva, Sterling in their current roles.

Bravo would make sense but he's too mysterious for our tiny minds at the moment.

If that was all the case it'd be 4 debutants for the derby. Exciting but jazus do I hate international football and the associated breaks in real football.
 
Pablo1 said:
Me too, mate. I can't wait to see him and if it is for Silva so be it. It would surprise me at this stage considering the start he's had. I suppose with him playing all games plus internationals a case could be made to rest him but I wouldn't personally - the man is on fire.
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Well we can rest Silva in the EFL cup, but you're right, at some point he's going to need a few games off. We've got a great squad to cope though.
 
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