Inigo Martinez

@BluePhil8 said:
In case you haven't noticed we spent £17m on a tiny goal keeper who can't save a shot just because he can pass a ball. Get a dose of reality.
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Yeh we did, only for Pep to acknowledge the physical nature of this league, post Leicester away, by changing tack defensively and ultimately dropping that "tiny goalkeeper". Oh and he's now gone out and spent £34m on another one who's considerably bigger. Got any other nonsense?
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
I'd be more inclined to think that the 'fucking idiot' is the person who can't read. My post says we need someone who can "dominate opponents physically AS WELL AS bring the ball out comfortably from the back". At no point do I advocate the purchase of Ryan fucking Shawcross or anyone of similar ilk. That clear enough for you?
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Such as? I mean ideally we would have 11 men who can dominate physically and use their feet well. You need to chill your beans mate you sound ridiculous spoiling for a fight 'fuck' this and 'fuck' that and 'fucking idiot' sound like a child.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
Such as? I mean ideally we would have 11 men who can dominate physically and use their feet well. You need to chill your beans mate you sound ridiculous spoiling for a fight 'fuck' this and 'fuck' that and 'fucking idiot' sound like a child.
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Ideally yes we would (very obviously) want 11 such players, however the problem is particularly acute at centre half in a system such as the one we employ with the full backs pushing forward. Elsewhere on the field you can win the ball back by pressing space, by doubling up on opponents, and so forth. Our centre backs though are routinely exposed and asked to defend one on one in oceans of space way more often than centre backs at other clubs. Kompany is very good at it as you would expect, but I watched Otamendi in particular, as well as Stones and Kolarov, get 'walked through' or muscled off the ball on too many occasions for us not to need a horses for physical courses upgrade (just off the top of my head Llorente, Lukaku, Costa, Wellbeck, the fella who chipped home Monaco's second and whose name escapes me, Wickham and even Rashford, all levered our defenders aside and went on to either score or nearly score). Again this isn't Spain. 80% of our opponents last season started with a big powerful target man to hit quick balls over our midfield to, and Pep recognised that fact fairly early on.
I'm sorry my profanity makes me appear childish. I feel the same about ill considered, sarcastic, smarty arsed bollocks, which, purely in my opinion of course, your original reply had in abundance.....
 
Could it be that we are still waiting to see how Kompany stands up to pre season before deciding on Martinez? I dont know much about Martinez (actually I dont know anything about him apart from what I've read on here), but he seems to be the sort of centre back who would be useful playing alongside a fit Vinny. Whereas if Vinny breaks down again, or the medics decide he needs to be used sparingly, we would need a much more physical player and would probably be prepared to pay £50m rather than £27m to get one.
 
Be surprised if we spent another 30 odd million on a centre back.

Its a risk but I would be happy with going into next season with Kompany/Stones/Otamendi/Denayer/Tosin
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
Be surprised if we spent another 30 odd million on a centre back.

Its a risk but I would be happy with going into next season with Kompany/Stones/Otamendi/Denayer/Tosin
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Tosin aint ready

Denayer may have (according to some on here) burnt his bridges at city


without Kompany both Stones and Ottomendi look vulnerable......
I absolutely think we need another centre half....who that is however I have not clue
 
Out: Sagna, Zabaleta, Clichy, Kolarov. (Navas who played some matches in defence. 4 (5)

In: Walker, Danilo, Mendy. 3.

No doubt we need a defender. A left footed cb who may play left back is perfect.

If we play Walker and Mendy Wednesday Night in CL, then we Need more than Danilo on Saturday.
 
simon23 said:
Tosin aint ready

Denayer may have (according to some on here) burnt his bridges at city


without Kompany both Stones and Ottomendi look vulnerable......
I absolutely think we need another centre half....who that is however I have not clue
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Id be surprised if tosin wasnt at least a squad player after signing that new contract. Be a bit of kick in the teeth to him if we sign another 30 million centre back.
 
We should bin of the Silvas as well and get big tall midfielders instead.[/QUOTE]

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greasedupdeafguy said:
Id be surprised if tosin wasnt at least a squad player after signing that new contract. Be a bit of kick in the teeth to him if we sign another 30 million centre back.
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If it weren't for Kompany's injury problems I'd agree, when he needs resting for niggles or fatigue, I think we need someone experienced to come in and sit beside our other CBs who don't seem confident playing together. I'm not saying Martinez is that defender though, Bonucci would have been good, old enough for Tosin to see he can still be part of the future of the City team providing we give him game time and ease him in.
 
The Lich King said:
Out: Sagna, Zabaleta, Clichy, Kolarov. (Navas who played some matches in defence. 4 (5)

In: Walker, Danilo, Mendy. 3.

No doubt we need a defender. A left footed cb who may play left back is perfect.

If we play Walker and Mendy Wednesday Night in CL, then we Need more than Danilo on Saturday.
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Someone like Mangala :)
 
Left footed, very capable of playing LB and CB. Pings the ball around like Pep likes, experienced but still young enough. Not the biggest but doesn't look like a complete push over either. Scored some outrageous goals with his left foot - which we don't need but... always nice to have in the locker. I like the look of this guy a lot.

£26 million seems like a very decent price here.
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Yeh we did, only for Pep to acknowledge the physical nature of this league, post Leicester away, by changing tack defensively and ultimately dropping that "tiny goalkeeper". Oh and he's now gone out and spent £34m on another one who's considerably bigger. Got any other nonsense?
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You consider 2 inches considerably bigger?
 
Hope there's little truth in this one. The (admittedly) few times I've seen him play I was not impressed. Diving in recklessly and unnecessarily. If we're going to sign another CB then let's sign a solid defender that reads the game well rather than another ball-playing CB. This guy only looked decent in possession.

I'd rather keep Mangala. And Mangala is shite.
 
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