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Tim of the Oak said:
It hasn’t helped that two thirds of the Prem Clubs who want an equal slice of the TV money refused to have 5 sub. That’s on the back of a shortened pre season and was pure self-interest.

Over the next 18 months some players who have had a lot of injuries in recent seasons after giving great service, including Fernandinho and Aguero, will move on and we should have fewer injuries. Other Clubs are suffering too like Liverpool and the rags and Spurs (in recent seasons).
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And long may they continue to suffer! Long and often.
 
I must have missed it, but when did it become the norm to fit three international games into each break instead of two. It is astonishing when top players have had no break, no pre season etc. that they are doing this. That arsehole Southgate was speaking about Gomes last night in the abstract as if the injury had nothing to do with England or him. I don’t give a shit about Gomes, but these clowns also have custody of our players and their welfare. The Dutch boss has said last night after Ake’s injury that the game shouldn’t even of been played - wow.
 
As a (ex) rugby player, ive always wondered why do football players get seemingly more innocuous injuries (hamstring, deadleg, groin strain etc) that keep them out of games for periods of time....yet rugby players, in high impact and fast games, dont?

Is it largely precautionary? Todays professional rugby players are incredibly fit and not just the fat weight lifters of old. I guess they dont play as many games?
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
As a (ex) rugby player, ive always wondered why do football players get seemingly more innocuous injuries (hamstring, deadleg, groin strain etc) that keep them out of games for periods of time....yet rugby players, in high impact and fast games, dont?

Is it largely precautionary? Todays professional rugby players are incredibly fit and not just the fat weight lifters of old. I guess they dont play as many games?
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Games will be part of it, I don't watch much rugby, hardly any really, but is rugby more direct? get the imnpression thgere is much less twisting,turning and changing direction in football than rugby.
 
blueparrot said:
Games will be part of it, I don't watch much rugby, hardly any really, but is rugby more direct? get the imnpression thgere is much less twisting,turning and changing direction in rugby.
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Crikey, yeah rugby not only has high impact tackles....rucks and mauls with multiple bodies piled on top....and the way the backs play these days, its incredibly fast, twisting / turning and then getting clobbered.....there is an awful lot of long distance kicking.....really hoofing the ball
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Crikey, yeah rugby not only has high impact tackles....rucks and mauls with multiple bodies piled on top....and the way the backs play these days, its incredibly fast, twisting / turning and then getting clobbered.....there is an awful lot of long distance kicking.....really hoofing the ball
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Not that then,guess the number of games most likely.
 
what's it going to take before a player is really badly injured because of being asked to play so much football
international football should take a back seat at the moment and traveling to and from countries is a risk
and i don't understand why players and clubs have been allowed to do this at this time ??
 
roypaulknewmyfather said:
Don’t normally have a lot of time for Lieuw in The Guardian but today his article was “For greed, vanity and narcissism, there’s no beating pointless friendlies“ Think he’s hit it right on the head.
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Few in his profession can bring themselves to report accurately on City's extensive injury list and the importance of which players are involved when a single injury to any Liverpool player attracts reams of coverage.
Few journalists have the bollocks to say to the Editor 'l cant write that its not true.'.
The Guardian in particular used to take pride in its morals and its accuracy.
No morals in the Fourth Estate any more.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Crikey, yeah rugby not only has high impact tackles....rucks and mauls with multiple bodies piled on top....and the way the backs play these days, its incredibly fast, twisting / turning and then getting clobbered.....there is an awful lot of long distance kicking.....really hoofing the ball
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I played both to a reasonable standard and had injuries playing both. Rugby was mainly impact to body, football were leg injuries mainly through 'industrial' challenges. I would say the old cliche was pretty accurate as well. Rugby, a game for thugs played by gentlemen and football a game for gentlemen played by .......

You seldom got someone deliberately trying to hurt you playing rugby. That wasn't the case with football. Maybe times have changed though and that no longer is the case.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I played both to a reasonable standard and had injuries playing both. Rugby was mainly impact to body, football were leg injuries mainly through 'industrial' challenges. I would say the old cliche was pretty accurate as well. Rugby, a game for thugs played by gentlemen and football a game for gentlemen played by .......

You seldom got someone deliberately trying to hurt you playing rugby. That wasn't the case with football. Maybe times have changed though and that no longer is the case.
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Agree.....but its more the seemingly innocuous injuries like hamstrings and thigh strains etc that baffle me...rugby players dont seem to go off for such injuries....itll be HIA mostly or very serious injuries...or just general substitutions...
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
As a (ex) rugby player, ive always wondered why do football players get seemingly more innocuous injuries (hamstring, deadleg, groin strain etc) that keep them out of games for periods of time....yet rugby players, in high impact and fast games, dont?

Is it largely precautionary? Todays professional rugby players are incredibly fit and not just the fat weight lifters of old. I guess they dont play as many games?
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Perhaps due to the type of training they do,and in particular the lifts (Squats and Deads) their bodies are more conditioned and stronger,especially where the posterior chain is concerned.

Then,of course,there is also the extra supplementation that needs to be factored.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
As a (ex) rugby player, ive always wondered why do football players get seemingly more innocuous injuries (hamstring, deadleg, groin strain etc) that keep them out of games for periods of time....yet rugby players, in high impact and fast games, dont?

Is it largely precautionary? Todays professional rugby players are incredibly fit and not just the fat weight lifters of old. I guess they dont play as many games?
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Having played football, RL and RU, I would suggest that maybe footballers tend to do more sprints and use their agility more, as well as the fact they kick the ball more often and will often lunge/stretch. A fair amount of twisting movements in football too.

Not sure about there being more dead legs in football. Rugby players get them regularly but play through them. I got so many playing rugby, especially in rucks when playing union. Not something I miss. I am convinced you are more likely to get injured in rugby post the initial contact in the tackle due to someone's elbows, hips, heads and knees crashing into you. Probably the most common injury in both forms of rugby are broken fingers.
 
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