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Shoulder surgery is always a last resort. The shoulder movement is restricted so much that especially in footballers the advice was always to try to rest and strengthen the area as much as possible in the hope it won’t pop out again.
Obviously this hasn’t worked which is a shame for all concerned.

Hopefully the surgery works well and Kalvin is able to make a quick and correct recovery. The shoulder is the easiest one to dislocate and in the heavy tumble world of football he needs to be up and firing on all cylinders.

Best wishes kalvin and hope to see you out on the pitch soon.
 
Why the hell did this op not get done the medical and the move?
Bielsa knew about this at Leeds last season.
 
Took me 12 months to get full use of my shoulder back post surgery,clearly an elite professional footballer will have the very best rehab....but it will still be a lengthy and difficult process.

Makes the decision to sell one of the best defensive midfield prospects in world football all the more baffling.
 
Is the injury still unknown other than a shoulder problem ? If it keeps popping out and has to be pinned back in place its long term 2 to 4 months, but if It's something else like a frozen shoulder and both ball and joint need looking at to see what is the damage and possible treatment then it could be a quick turn around


How long does a frozen shoulder operation take?


The operation usually takes 30 minutes to an hour. Your surgeon will make two small cuts, about half a centimetre long, one at the front and one at the back of your shoulder. They will insert a small telescope through one of the cuts so they can examine the joint.

The trouble is In a frozen shoulder, the capsule has become inflamed and scarring develops. The scar formations are called adhesions. As the capsule's folds become scarred and tightened, shoulder movement becomes restricted and moving the joint becomes painful.

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FantasyIreland said:
Took me 12 months to get full use of my shoulder back post surgery,clearly an elite professional footballer will have the very best rehab....but it will still be a lengthy and difficult process.

Makes the decision to sell one of the best defensive midfield prospects in world football all the more baffling.
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It's a nasty op and no guarantee of success, I wish him well, a lot of hard work and heartache ahead.
 
ancoats said:
Is the injury still unknown other than a shoulder problem ? If it keeps popping out and has to be pinned back in place its long term 2 to 4 months, but if It's something else like a frozen shoulder and both ball and joint need looking at to see what is the damage and possible treatment then it could be a quick turn around


How long does a frozen shoulder operation take?


The operation usually takes 30 minutes to an hour. Your surgeon will make two small cuts, about half a centimetre long, one at the front and one at the back of your shoulder. They will insert a small telescope through one of the cuts so they can examine the joint.

The trouble is In a frozen shoulder, the capsule has become inflamed and scarring develops. The scar formations are called adhesions. As the capsule's folds become scarred and tightened, shoulder movement becomes restricted and moving the joint becomes painful.

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It looks like it's popped out at least four times.
 
He's got access to some of the best medical care in the world. If I was Pep I would be thinking write off this season for him to get proper treatment and hopefully comeback better.
 
The late great north Manchester boxing manager and promoter Jack Trickett once said about the perennially unlucky local fighter Michael Brodie, “If he fell in a barrel of tits, he’d come out sucking his thumb”
Can’t shake the feeling that Kalvin will end up similarly cursed
Good job we have that buy back on Lavia
 
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It looks like it's popped out at least four times.
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Have the club come out and said that ? If so, then it's not good long-term, I don't see him making the world cup or playing for city until the 2nd part of the season, but when he played for city it did not pop out just pain in the arm and should when lifting it up that's why I think it's a frozen shoulder
 
ancoats said:
Have the club come out and said that ? If so, then it's not good long-term, I don't see him making the world cup or playing for city until the 2nd part of the season, but when he played for city it did not pop out just pain in the arm and should when lifting it up that's why I think it's a frozen shoulder
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It was in the Athletic - they don't actually mention dislocation each time, but it has definitely happened a couple of times at least, and clearly all the issues are linked.

From the article: "The first time his shoulder dislocated was in a home game for Leeds against Wolves in October 2020. But the significant injury happened on the final day of that season against West Brom."

They then said that he didn't have surgery after that game as it was just before the Euros and he didn't want to miss them. Apparently it was considered when he had a medium term injury last season, but Leeds didn't know how long his injury would last, and I suspect with the club being under pressure, wanted him back asap.

It then says he injured it against Barcelona, which wasn't considered serious (pretty sure the commentary said it looked like a dislocation, but maybe it wasn't), but then dislocated it in training again last week.

So, although not definite dislocations each time, it does sound like that's the issue.
 
bluenova said:
It was in the Athletic - they don't actually mention dislocation each time, but it has definitely happened a couple of times at least, and clearly all the issues are linked.

From the article: "The first time his shoulder dislocated was in a home game for Leeds against Wolves in October 2020. But the significant injury happened on the final day of that season against West Brom."

They then said that he didn't have surgery after that game as it was just before the Euros and he didn't want to miss them. Apparently it was considered when he had a medium term injury last season, but Leeds didn't know how long his injury would last, and I suspect with the club being under pressure, wanted him back asap.

It then says he injured it against Barcelona, which wasn't considered serious (pretty sure the commentary said it looked like a dislocation, but maybe it wasn't), but then dislocated it in training again last week.

So, although not definite dislocations each time, it does sound like that's the issue.
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So it's looking bad for him and making the world cup then.
it's not easy to get fully fit after the operation, it's a long rest then long term muscle build up to get it strong enough to hold it in place, 8 to 12 weeks at best but again could be 6 months
 
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Shoulders are probably the trickiest body part due to their intricate structure and rotational properties,there is never a guarantee obviously.
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Same injury that Bryan Robson has before the World Cup in 86, that did not go well, hopefully this outcome will be better, the sooner he has the op the better, almost certainly miss the WC but he has a long career to protect.
 
Keeper! said:
Same injury that Bryan Robson has before the World Cup in 86, that did not go well, hopefully this outcome will be better, the sooner he has the op the better, almost certainly miss the WC but he has a long career to protect.
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86 was a very long time ago ,i'm sure techniques in shoulder surgery have moved on , same as knees ,once upon a time a bad knee injury meant career over at the highest level most of the time
 
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