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Interesting Books on Irish History in last 30 yrs
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I should think there are a fair few protestants who consider themselves Irish, but wouldn't see Bobby Sands as a martyr, more of a terrorist.[/quote]
most protestants were loyal to the crown and don't consider themselves Irish at all.[/quote]
So do you see him as a martyr ?[/quote]
by the very definition of a martyr he was yes. he suffered death for his beliefs and rights.[/quote]
So if you are defending martyr's does that mean you defend the islamic terrorists who bombed london killing innocent people on there way to work .They class thereselfs as martyr's . Marytyr's = Terrorists
most protestants were loyal to the crown and don't consider themselves Irish at all.[/quote]
So do you see him as a martyr ?[/quote]
by the very definition of a martyr he was yes. he suffered death for his beliefs and rights.[/quote]
So if you are defending martyr's does that mean you defend the islamic terrorists who bombed london killing innocent people on there way to work .They class thereselfs as martyr's . Marytyr's = Terrorists
Esteban de la Sexface
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M19 said:I should think there are a fair few protestants who consider themselves Irish, but wouldn't see Bobby Sands as a martyr, more of a terrorist.
most protestants were loyal to the crown and don't consider themselves Irish at all.[/quote]
So do you see him as a martyr ?[/quote]
by the very definition of a martyr he was yes. he suffered death for his beliefs and rights.[/quote]
So if you are defending martyr's does that mean you defend the islamic terrorists who bombed london killing innocent people on there way to work .They class thereselfs as martyr's . Marytyr's = Terrorists[/quote]
Jesus Christ was a martyr, was he a terrorist.
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SDAVROS
Yea but Jesus Christ was not a convicted terrorist ,neither did he get arrested with a gun in his possession that had been used to kill someone .
If Bobby Sands had gone on hunger strike as a innocent man defending is beliefs then i could understand sympathy for him .But he didn't he was a member of a terrorist organization that murdered innocent people .
Loyalist or Republican it does not matter to me ,if you actively take part i the murder of innocent people than you deserve to rot in hell .
No matter what your beliefs violence solves nothing
Yea but Jesus Christ was not a convicted terrorist ,neither did he get arrested with a gun in his possession that had been used to kill someone .
If Bobby Sands had gone on hunger strike as a innocent man defending is beliefs then i could understand sympathy for him .But he didn't he was a member of a terrorist organization that murdered innocent people .
Loyalist or Republican it does not matter to me ,if you actively take part i the murder of innocent people than you deserve to rot in hell .
No matter what your beliefs violence solves nothing
Why dont you include British army in "if you actively take part in the murder of innocent people"? They did it, too.M19 said:SDAVROS
Yea but Jesus Christ was not a convicted terrorist ,neither did he get arrested with a gun in his possession that had been used to kill someone .
If Bobby Sands had gone on hunger strike as a innocent man defending is beliefs then i could understand sympathy for him .But he didn't he was a member of a terrorist organization that murdered innocent people .
Loyalist or Republican it does not matter to me ,if you actively take part i the murder of innocent people than you deserve to rot in hell .
No matter what your beliefs violence solves nothing
I'd hope Jesus hadn't been arrested for gun possession :) didn't think they existed back then!
blue jim said:Why dont you include British army in "if you actively take part in the murder of innocent people"? They did it, too.M19 said:SDAVROS
Yea but Jesus Christ was not a convicted terrorist ,neither did he get arrested with a gun in his possession that had been used to kill someone .
If Bobby Sands had gone on hunger strike as a innocent man defending is beliefs then i could understand sympathy for him .But he didn't he was a member of a terrorist organization that murdered innocent people .
Loyalist or Republican it does not matter to me ,if you actively take part i the murder of innocent people than you deserve to rot in hell .
No matter what your beliefs violence solves nothing
I'd hope Jesus hadn't been arrested for gun possession :) didn't think they existed back then!
I dont defend the actions of the british army you prick!! ,But unlike you i defend no one who causes pain to a human being.
johnmc
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M19 said:Loyalist or Republican it does not matter to me ,if you actively take part i the murder of innocent people than you deserve to rot in hell .
That includes the british Army ,Unlike you dick head i dont defend any of the bastards
What would you do if your family home was constantly being raided, you were constantly getting interrogated and beaten, some family members murder innocently, living as a third class citizen etc etc. Sit there and take it?