bluethrunthru
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I agree - I think things for the past 30 or 40 years would have been different had they done so...also pisses me off that mainland parties don't stand in Ulster to be honest.
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I agree - I think things for the past 30 or 40 years would have been different had they done so...also pisses me off that mainland parties don't stand in Ulster to be honest.
mancity2012_eamo
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They’d most likely have repeatedly taken the hiding they currently are getting in Scotland.
bluethrunthru
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I agree but I still think it would have been more democratic and have lead to progress over peace much sooner.....it was all kept semi-detached and exploitable for political reasons
mancity2012_eamo
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Pre 1998 it was never going to happen. There is no way republicans would take the oath.
Maybe, just maybe there was room for an alternative to the oath under the right of choice in the GFA, but given the compromises on both sides I can see why this would be a step too far as far as the British government would be concerned.
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This thread I was was far more cordial and informative in comparison to the now defunct UK general election thread.
AlexWilliamsGloves
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we have enough parties here....throwing "english" parties in to the mix is a recipe for disaster...parties who neither care about, nor understand life in NI!
AlexWilliamsGloves
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The DUP are not fading away in importance...they will remain (pun not intended) the/a major party here
mancity2012_eamo
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I do agree that NI was kept apart. It was over there. Their problem. Interesting idea regarding mainstream parties. They never were present on the ground, only as a ruling government. I don’t believe the seeds of the GFA would ever have been planted with a Tory government. Ive a lot of regard for Mo Mowlam and the work she did.
AlexWilliamsGloves
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gas craic...
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/...5204#ICID=Android_BelfastLiveNewsApp_AppShare
The police have revealed details of a “significant munitions find” hauled out of the Lagan including 28 pipe bombs and component parts for an improvised grenade launcher.
Detectives from the PSNI’s Terrorism Investigation Unit (TIU) have launched an investigation after the haul was discovered on Thursday on a boat next to the Lagan Lookout.
They say that shortly before 4.10pm, “police received a report that, during dredging work in the river, a sports holdall-type bag had been found in the water, which contained a number of suspicious items”.
Police rushed to the scene, and the Queen Elizabeth Bridge and a nearby footbridge were later closed to “allow ATO to attend and examine the items”.
Detective Chief Superintendent Raymond Murray said: “While the objects are undergoing further examination, what I can say today is we believe a significant munitions find has been uncovered.
“This includes what is believed to be 28 pipe bombs, one Under Vehicle Improvised Explosive Device, component parts for use in coffee-jar bombs, two improvised grenades, component parts for an improvised grenade launcher and an improvised smoke grenade.
“These potentially lethal weapons were designed to kill, or seriously injure, their targets, which include police officers and members of the public. History tells us that they would be used recklessly and indiscriminately, with little regard as to who would be the final victim.
“Thankfully, they did not reach their destinations or targets, and have been taken out of circulation. Our investigation is at an early stage, and we are working to establish how and when these munitions were dumped in the river, and by whom.
“It is unclear at this time how old these munitions are, and how they came to be in the water. They do have the appearance of having been dumped by someone who panicked, perhaps as a result of police activity, but when that may have happened is not yet clear. The devices will now be subject to extensive forensic examination.
“Clearly, those responsible for dumping these extremely dangerous munitions, and in the manner in which they did, demonstrated a blatant disregard for the safety of the community.”
The senior officer thanked the people who found the bombs for reporting it to police.
He added: “I want to take this opportunity to appeal to anyone who has information which could help our investigation to pick up the phone and tell us. Please take a moment to think that the intended targets and destinations for these munitions could be someone you know, or where you live.
“I believe there are people in the community who will hold vital pieces of information that could assist us, and I would urge them or anyone with information to call us on 101, or call Crimestoppers, which is anonymous, on 0800 555 111.”
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/...5204#ICID=Android_BelfastLiveNewsApp_AppShare
The police have revealed details of a “significant munitions find” hauled out of the Lagan including 28 pipe bombs and component parts for an improvised grenade launcher.
Detectives from the PSNI’s Terrorism Investigation Unit (TIU) have launched an investigation after the haul was discovered on Thursday on a boat next to the Lagan Lookout.
They say that shortly before 4.10pm, “police received a report that, during dredging work in the river, a sports holdall-type bag had been found in the water, which contained a number of suspicious items”.
Police rushed to the scene, and the Queen Elizabeth Bridge and a nearby footbridge were later closed to “allow ATO to attend and examine the items”.
Detective Chief Superintendent Raymond Murray said: “While the objects are undergoing further examination, what I can say today is we believe a significant munitions find has been uncovered.
“This includes what is believed to be 28 pipe bombs, one Under Vehicle Improvised Explosive Device, component parts for use in coffee-jar bombs, two improvised grenades, component parts for an improvised grenade launcher and an improvised smoke grenade.
“These potentially lethal weapons were designed to kill, or seriously injure, their targets, which include police officers and members of the public. History tells us that they would be used recklessly and indiscriminately, with little regard as to who would be the final victim.
“Thankfully, they did not reach their destinations or targets, and have been taken out of circulation. Our investigation is at an early stage, and we are working to establish how and when these munitions were dumped in the river, and by whom.
“It is unclear at this time how old these munitions are, and how they came to be in the water. They do have the appearance of having been dumped by someone who panicked, perhaps as a result of police activity, but when that may have happened is not yet clear. The devices will now be subject to extensive forensic examination.
“Clearly, those responsible for dumping these extremely dangerous munitions, and in the manner in which they did, demonstrated a blatant disregard for the safety of the community.”
The senior officer thanked the people who found the bombs for reporting it to police.
He added: “I want to take this opportunity to appeal to anyone who has information which could help our investigation to pick up the phone and tell us. Please take a moment to think that the intended targets and destinations for these munitions could be someone you know, or where you live.
“I believe there are people in the community who will hold vital pieces of information that could assist us, and I would urge them or anyone with information to call us on 101, or call Crimestoppers, which is anonymous, on 0800 555 111.”
mancity2012_eamo
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Like the Tories in Scotland?