IS Says Jordanian Pilot Burned Alive

[worsleyweb]

I hope we have no one on this forum who has any sympathy whatsoever to these monsters. Sooner they are wiped out the better.

 

[whp.blue]

By definition, without religion there wouldn't be any Muslims, moderate or otherwise.

Yes I know that but I am sure you know what I mean.

Lots of so called moderate Muslims do not come forward to the non-Muslim authorities in this country

We need to instil a deep motivation within the Muslim community to be very proactive when it comes to naming terrorists. The best way to do this is by making it a very severe offence not to come forward and also ensure terrorists are aware their Families may suffer for their actions this will discourage people from joining these groups Any Mosques that are found guilty of this should be shut and their assets seized that will greatly restrict the influence of extremist Imams.

There you go, a bit of light reading.

UK imams condemn Isis in online video
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Leading UK-based Shia and Sunni imams and clerics have filmed a video message urging young British Muslims against fighting in Iraq and Syria.

They say their film is designed to be distributed online and via social media to counter "digital propaganda" put out by Isis and other extremist groups.

It comes amid concern about radicalised Britons who are travelling abroad.

Abu Muntasir, from the Ipswich-based charity Jimas, describes Isis as "evil" and urges people not to "get mixed up".

Jihadi videos posted online are one of the main tools used by the militant group Isis (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant) to recruit and radicalise people.

About 500 Britons are believed to have become involved in fighting in Syria and Iraq with the group.

Reyaad Khan, Nasser Muthana and Abdul Rakib Amin
An Isis video featuring three Britons emerged last month
Sayed Ali Rizvi, head of the Majlis Ulama-e-Shia organisation, says in the video the UK is "united under various colours, nationalities, cultures and creeds".

He says Isis "are cowboys. They don't represent the religion and are not qualified to represent the religion... We are Muslims united against Isis, against terrorism, against atrocity, against pain and suffering."

Imam Maulana Shahid Raza of Leicester Central Mosque, a leading Sunni cleric, accuses Isis of trying to create corruption and discord within the Muslim world.

London-based Ayatollah Seyed Fazel Milani also condemns the militant group in the video, adding: "We benefit from opinions of others and experience and that's why it is very important to have this unity."

And another Leicester Imam, Ibrahim Mogra, the assistant secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, appears in the film, appealing to British Muslim communities to fight sectarian division and extremism.

Online movement
The production of the four-minute video, which has been be posted on the imamsonline.com website, was organised by the Faith Associates consultancy.

Its chief executive Shaukat Warraich said: "The leaders of the Islamic faith within the UK felt it was their responsibility to spread the message of peace and unity outside of the mosque and galvanise an online movement, urging British Muslims to think twice about travelling to conflict zones to fight."

Earlier this month, the same leaders were behind an open letter signed by more than 100 imams from urging British Muslims not to travel to war-torn regions.

It called on communities "to continue the generous and tireless effort to make aid donations during Ramadan to help people in Iraq and Syria "in a safe and responsible way", and warned them about going there themselves.

and how many Imams haven't come forward? without this your figures are useless

I would expect every Imam in the Country to condemn ISIS as a very minimum as they are killing fellow Muslims,


I have seen all this before but how many of the potential 1000's of family, friends, associates and Imams of that 500 or so fighters have come forward and actually helped the authorities?

Action not words is the way to judge people

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Yes I know that but I am sure you know what I mean.

Lots of so called moderate Muslims do not come forward to the non-Muslim authorities in this country

We need to instil a deep motivation within the Muslim community to be very proactive when it comes to naming terrorists. The best way to do this is by making it a very severe offence not to come forward and also ensure terrorists are aware their Families may suffer for their actions this will discourage people from joining these groups Any Mosques that are found guilty of this should be shut and their assets seized that will greatly restrict the influence of extremist Imams.

There you go, a bit of light reading.

UK imams condemn Isis in online video
Jump media playerMedia player helpOut of media player. Press enter to return or tab to continue.
The production of the four-minute video was organised by the Faith Associates consultancy
Continue reading the main story
Related Stories

Plea to UK Muslims on Syria and Iraq
Imams urge fighters to shun Syria
Adverts play before extremist videos
Leading UK-based Shia and Sunni imams and clerics have filmed a video message urging young British Muslims against fighting in Iraq and Syria.

They say their film is designed to be distributed online and via social media to counter "digital propaganda" put out by Isis and other extremist groups.

It comes amid concern about radicalised Britons who are travelling abroad.

Abu Muntasir, from the Ipswich-based charity Jimas, describes Isis as "evil" and urges people not to "get mixed up".

Jihadi videos posted online are one of the main tools used by the militant group Isis (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant) to recruit and radicalise people.

About 500 Britons are believed to have become involved in fighting in Syria and Iraq with the group.

Reyaad Khan, Nasser Muthana and Abdul Rakib Amin
An Isis video featuring three Britons emerged last month
Sayed Ali Rizvi, head of the Majlis Ulama-e-Shia organisation, says in the video the UK is "united under various colours, nationalities, cultures and creeds".

He says Isis "are cowboys. They don't represent the religion and are not qualified to represent the religion... We are Muslims united against Isis, against terrorism, against atrocity, against pain and suffering."

Imam Maulana Shahid Raza of Leicester Central Mosque, a leading Sunni cleric, accuses Isis of trying to create corruption and discord within the Muslim world.

London-based Ayatollah Seyed Fazel Milani also condemns the militant group in the video, adding: "We benefit from opinions of others and experience and that's why it is very important to have this unity."

And another Leicester Imam, Ibrahim Mogra, the assistant secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, appears in the film, appealing to British Muslim communities to fight sectarian division and extremism.

Online movement
The production of the four-minute video, which has been be posted on the imamsonline.com website, was organised by the Faith Associates consultancy.

Its chief executive Shaukat Warraich said: "The leaders of the Islamic faith within the UK felt it was their responsibility to spread the message of peace and unity outside of the mosque and galvanise an online movement, urging British Muslims to think twice about travelling to conflict zones to fight."

Earlier this month, the same leaders were behind an open letter signed by more than 100 imams from urging British Muslims not to travel to war-torn regions.

It called on communities "to continue the generous and tireless effort to make aid donations during Ramadan to help people in Iraq and Syria "in a safe and responsible way", and warned them about going there themselves.

and how many Imams haven't come forward? without this your figures are useless

I would expect every Imam in the Country to condemn ISIS as a very minimum as they are killing fellow Muslims,


I have seen all this before but how many of the potential 1000's of family, friends, associates and Imams of that 500 or so fighters have come forward and actually helped the authorities?

Action not words is the way to judge people

I don't know.

Do you?

 

[whp.blue]

I've said it before and I'll say it again
"FUCK EACH AND EVERY RELIGION ON THE PLANET, IT WILL BE THE END OF US ALL"
The sooner people stop believing in cloud fairies the better

The sooner people stop thinking all this is about religon the better. If all religion was forgotten tomorrow these very same people would be fighting over land or money, resources etc. Their way of life is being eroded in a modern world. All islamic terrorism is in response to that, whether subconciously or not.

The problems here go way beyond Islamic terrorism. A couple of days ago they threw a guy off a building for being gay. These kinds of hate crimes are fueled by religion.

this is completely in line with Muslim teaching as the Koran doesn't tolerate Gays so with hind sight you are right it is not an Islamic Terrorism issue it is just an Islamic issue.

 

[Bluemanc100]

The problems here go way beyond Islamic terrorism. A couple of days ago they threw a guy off a building for being gay. These kinds of hate crimes are fueled by religion.

So "though shall not kill" only belongs in the Christian Bible ?

Tbf the Christian bible instructs people to stone homosexuals to death.

The difference is that the Christian community are intelligent enough to realise it cant be taken literally, IS are sub-human it seems so they cannot get their fucked up heads around it..... unless It's their excuse to murder..........

Hard to believe they cant understand that it isn't to be taken literally when you hear about the background of some if its conscripts........

 

[aguero93:20]

The sooner people stop thinking all this is about religon the better. If all religion was forgotten tomorrow these very same people would be fighting over land or money, resources etc. Their way of life is being eroded in a modern world. All islamic terrorism is in response to that, whether subconciously or not.

The problems here go way beyond Islamic terrorism. A couple of days ago they threw a guy off a building for being gay. These kinds of hate crimes are fueled by religion.

this is completely in line with Muslim teaching as the Koran doesn't tolerate Gays so with hide sight you are right it is not an Islamic Terrorism issue it is just an Islamic issue.

Not just the Koran, every religious scripture.

 

[whp.blue]

The problems here go way beyond Islamic terrorism. A couple of days ago they threw a guy off a building for being gay. These kinds of hate crimes are fueled by religion.

this is completely in line with Muslim teaching as the Koran doesn't tolerate Gays so with hide sight you are right it is not an Islamic Terrorism issue it is just an Islamic issue.

Not just the Koran, every religious scripture.

so name me a Christian country that executes gays in the name of the Bible if you struggle with that name me an Islamic country that executes Gays in the name of the Koran

 

[aguero93:20]

this is completely in line with Muslim teaching as the Koran doesn't tolerate Gays so with hide sight you are right it is not an Islamic Terrorism issue it is just an Islamic issue.

Not just the Koran, every religious scripture.

so name me a Christian country that executes gays in the name of the Bible if you struggle with that name me an Islamic country that executes Gays in the name of the Koran

Christian - Uganda.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

this is completely in line with Muslim teaching as the Koran doesn't tolerate Gays so with hide sight you are right it is not an Islamic Terrorism issue it is just an Islamic issue.

Not just the Koran, every religious scripture.

so name me a Christian country that executes gays in the name of the Bible if you struggle with that name me an Islamic country that executes Gays in the name of the Koran

Iran

 

[whp.blue]

Not just the Koran, every religious scripture.

so name me a Christian country that executes gays in the name of the Bible if you struggle with that name me an Islamic country that executes Gays in the name of the Koran

Christian - Uganda.

Try again that law was never passed and whilst it is illegal to be gay in Uganda it is punishable by up to 14 years in jail and not the death penalty