Is The End of Christendom Nigh?

[.db.]

Just a question; under what direction do the West go to war against Islamic countries to "fight, invade and conquer"?

The West aren't led there under the mantle of Christian warfare and fighters don't join under religious means, on the whole.

I'd love to know what your answer would be.

Like I said, that’s now done in the name of countries and political ideologies. Showing that religion isn’t really needed to control anymore.

 

[Bigga]

Like I said, that’s now done in the name of countries and political ideologies. Showing that religion isn’t really needed to control anymore.

Hm.

Well, all you've proved is that religion is an excuse for man to fight wars.

• Dryopithecus (Dryopithecine) ...
• Ramapithecus (Syn: Sivapithecus) ...
• Australopithecus (Southern Apes) ...
• Homo Habilis (Able Man) ...
• Homo Erectus (Upright Man) ...
• Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis (New Human Species) ...
• Homo Sapiens (Wise Men)

Man, through all these stages has fought, murdered and separated over facial differences, food, wealth, power, jealousy, ownership, territories, shiny things, made up things, whatever Man decides it wants to fight over. It doesn't matter how close or far the rival is.

With or without religion, Mankind has fought and will fight.

Using 'religion' is the biggest cop out by any atheist using that argument.

 

[.db.]

Hm.

Well, all you've proved is that religion is an excuse for man to fight wars.

• Dryopithecus (Dryopithecine) ...
• Ramapithecus (Syn: Sivapithecus) ...
• Australopithecus (Southern Apes) ...
• Homo Habilis (Able Man) ...
• Homo Erectus (Upright Man) ...
• Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis (New Human Species) ...
• Homo Sapiens (Wise Men)

Man, through all these stages has fought, murdered and separated over facial differences, food, wealth, power, jealousy, ownership, territories, shiny things, made up things, whatever Man decides it wants to fight over. It doesn't matter how close or far the rival is.

With or without religion, Mankind has fought and will fight.

Using 'religion' is the biggest cop out by any atheist using that argument.

I don’t know what you’re on about. I said one sentence about that, in the past tense and never claimed that it didn’t occur before or after in other ways.

But what I said is true; religion was a way to control masses, to band them together to fight, invade and conquer, and to convert and again control the new masses.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Jebus is gonna have to make a return and perform some of his street magic. How come all the miracles and magic shit happened over 2000 years ago but nowt today?

Unless Dynamo is, in fact, Jesus…..

 

[Bigga]

I don’t know what you’re on about. I said one sentence about that, in the past tense and never claimed that it didn’t occur before or after in other ways.

But what I said is true; religions were seen as a way to control masses, to band them together to fight, invade and conquer, and to convert and again control the new masses.

And I'm saying that 'religion' has been a useful tool of its time, but it's not the only tool used.

Societies have fought in the name of Kings and Queens, but we still have them dotted around. The need for a reason to label why Man has gone to war is tiring when the reasons are clear to anyone who wants to look.

War is fought for power and control only, so let's agree on that.