Is this the worst one?

AndyP68 said:
What exactly should we have done differently. We were winning until the 85th minute or whatever and never behind until right at the death.

Should he have dropped Eddie? Brought on a new keeper on 80 mins to see the game out?
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maybe bring on Khusanov and play him as a RB instead of bringing on Rico and getting him to wander off into midfield. wouldn't have stopped Eddie's brain fart to be fair.
 
willipp said:
It was a tough one to take cause of how it played out.

However on reflection and if we’re honest, there was a big gulf between the teams and I haven’t thought that really in any of the games we’ve thrown away this season (apart from PSG maybe).

Madrid were miles better than us over the 90 minutes and we just don’t have the players anymore to handle that level.

That being said, 2-1 up heading to injury time and losing was a massive kick in the dick.
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There has been, or still is, too many supporters not realising what's happened. We've regressed alarmingly in a remarkably short period of time. There's several clear patterns that have emerged as well. 2nd half collapses, regular and result changing mistakes from players etc. In that period a few teams have improved a tad and we've been caught out and overtaken. The reasons for our decline have been discussed at length on here such as injuries, fatigue, distractions amongst others. My gut feeling is that it's the end of an era, but the return to competing at the top can be a quick one.

A ruthless mentality is now required. Over the hill players moved on. Not good enough players moved on. Don't want to be here, off you go. A big summer of 4 or 5 top class acquisitions and we'll be back on track I feel.
 
Not even close.

We knew in the league phase that we weren't winning the UCL. It's just prolonging the inevitable right now. And Real are the defending champions.

The Manchester Derby was an embarrassment against a midtable side that haven't won the league in over 10 years.
 
Midway through the derby I got a text to say that a family member had died suddenly, so I watched the remainder of the game and of course was frustrated, but it was put into perspective.

Going to Madrid with a draw or even a 1 goal advantage and I'd still not have fancied us to get through. We would collapse over there with a flurry of goals if Madrid had to beat us by a few.
 
I think the worst thing last night was the sobering reality of how much we have regressed as a team

Just looking at playing Madrid in isolation

2022 4-3 , we absolutely battled them from the first minute , it was only Benzema having a worldly that saved them from embarrassment, oh and City missing loads of chances

2023 4-0 , an absolute annihilation , probably the best 90 minutes of football we have ever played. They didn’t get a kick

2024 1-1 , they were shit scared of us so sat back after taking a surprise early lead. We battered them again but only got one goal

2025 2-3 , it now us that look shit scared and we play cautiously , they batter us but we almost nick an undeserved win

Madrid hadn’t beaten us at home until last night

Last night was the first home loss in the champions league for 7 years

I think any decent team will beat us at the moment but we can hold our own against the dross
 
City Raider said:
Derby.

Then Feyenoord. It was when it sunk in how bad this season was going to be. I couldn’t believe what I was watching whereas last night I could.
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That 10, 15 minute collapse against Feyenoord was probably as bad as anything I’ve seen as a City fan.

I was at the Bournemouth 3-3 game in 1989, but the Feyenoord collapse was actually far worse than that.
 
Roachy said:
There has been, or still is, too many supporters not realising what's happened. We've regressed alarmingly in a remarkably short period of time. There's several clear patterns that have emerged as well. 2nd half collapses, regular and result changing mistakes from players etc. In that period a few teams have improved a tad and we've been caught out and overtaken. The reasons for our decline have been discussed at length on here such as injuries, fatigue, distractions amongst others. My gut feeling is that it's the end of an era, but the return to competing at the top can be a quick one.

A ruthless mentality is now required. Over the hill players moved on. Not good enough players moved on. Don't want to be here, off you go. A big summer of 4 or 5 top class acquisitions and we'll be back on track I feel.
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Yeah agreed. We cannot dwell on sentiment and sadly that means some big players have to go. KDB is the one for me. We are carrying him in games like last night on the hope he produces some brilliance. He often does but he leaves so exposed in the centre of the park. The amount of times last night in the middle where i noticed him just still watching the ball he should be challenging for. Kind of reminded me off the PSG sides with Messi, Neymar and Mbappe. Comes to life with the ball at his feet but without the ball a complete liability.

Huge changes needed this summer just to make us competitive again.
 
Losing to the worst rag side since 1974 in the last few minutes was much worse.

This play off game shouldn't be happening. We weren't good enough to get through on merit initially, it's just two extra games we could have done without. It's there to try and ensure if the big boys have a blip they should play a lesser side and progress, unfortunately for us Madrid ended up in the same position so one of us is fucked. Sadly given our drop off this season it looks like it's us, but in all honesty we don't deserve to progress.
 
Derby hurt more. Arsenal hurt more.

We were decent in spells last night and didn't get embarrassed. Don't think we'll do it but we are still in the tie. And Real have done that to everyone before.
 
Not the worst, but an accumulation of these type of results has made it hard to take.
 
Thinking about it , no it isn't the worst because its Madrid and even at the best of times Madrid have done this to teams and us. Feyenoord and united were probably far worse.
This morning I'm over it ,truth is we aren't winning this this year so if we go out now we go out. Means we have the rest of the season playing once a week and recovering players ,proper training with integrating the new players and concentrate on top 4 /5 maybe even win the cup.
 
AndyP68 said:
What exactly should we have done differently. We were winning until the 85th minute or whatever and never behind until right at the death.

Should he have dropped Eddie? Brought on a new keeper on 80 mins to see the game out?
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There's no exact 1 thing my sarcastic, aggressive friend. And as for your rhetorical question, I'd suggest it was a minor miracle that "...We were winning until the 85th minute..." - but, that's the fuckin' point! Keeping the lead; seeing the game out.

So, I'll suggest blooding younger fitter, stronger players sooner; playing fit players who can run and challenge; having a better acquisitions and retention policy; recognising the decline in personnel earlier; changing tactics - certainly when you know that your game management has gone to pot; making different and effective substitutions. Our "groundhog day" tactic needs to be called out.

Stop doing the same fuckin' things, which result in pressure as the game goes on, which our tired players (and inadequate ones in the case of Lewis) can't cope with.
 
If you're honestly losing sleep because of football you should really get your priorities in order.
 
At least Madrid is a decent team, not utter shite like Spurs and the Rags. There's some excuse for getting beat by a top team, it's when you're beaten by dogshite that you have to wonder.
 
In the past 14 years Ive seen City lift 8 Premier Leagues, 3 FA Cups, 6 League Cups, 1 European Cup, 1 European Super Cup and 1 World Club Cup - throw in 4 Charity Shields as well if you are counting them like Ferguson used to.

In short, its been the privilige of my life as a City supporter, living and seeing what is the golden age of our club alongside my wife and children who are all Blues too. If youre a Blue then these have been the days of our lives.

I can quite easily live through this season, no problem at all - Ive seen the Frank Clark era and know what a crisis really is. We are still in the FA Cup, in the top 6 in the League and have owners and a manager committed to excellence so my confidence in us rebuilding and going again is quite strong. Let the rebuild begin.

Im 54 now but in my late 30s I never thought Id ever see City lift a single pot. Ive now seen us win the European Cup so if no other trophy followed now in my lifetime Ive more than had my share.
 
The Derby defeat was the worst because we lost to such a poor team. I can’t recall any team collapsing as much in the final minutes. We always seem to concede two goals in quick succession. That shows we are mentally weak which used to be our biggest strength.
 
Burtonblue said:
I actually saw some positives today.
Stones may be able to do a job in the middle after all if he stays fit.
Foden looked more like himself.
Gvardiol excellent again.
Erling also looked up for the fight.
Over 87 mins we were pretty well in control of things but mistakes and poor game management in the final minutes against just about the most ruthless fuckers in the CL cost us dearly.
In all truth the result today was predictable against this opponent.
For me losing the derby to the worst rag team in decades was far worse.
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The second half of that sentence is undeniably true, but the first is well wide of the mark. They had 20 shots at goal, including a number of sitters, and on another night they could have bagged half a dozen. We might have had the illusion of control as we recycled the ball to little effect, but every time we turned the ball over, they waltzed through our elderly midfield like it wasn't there. We were in control of nothing......
 
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