Istanbul CL Final chaos | City Matters statement (p 133)

I was on the nightmare Mad Dogs tv show style shuttle buses to and from the stadium. I won't repeat my story, other than to say I always had a bottle or bottles of water with me because I need to take meds. People were throwing up on my bus back to the airport and unable to stand up due to dehydration. My mate has to take cardiovascular meds. On his late arrival at the fan park, no drinks left other than little cups of water for five Euros then massive queues in the stadium. On the way back to the airport there were people unable to take their meds due to them not being able to get a drink. Some couldn't stand up on their bus back to the airport because pre-existing medical conditions were becoming more pronounced in the heat. The potential health catastrophes don't bear thinking about.

On the way back to the airport, the bus in front broke down and fans leaving the vehicle to walk along a high speed route in the dark in a far away place. No-one should have to queue for a drink in the stadium - there should be people going round handing out free bottles of water.
 
I think UEFA have to be taken to task over this by City. The whole thing was a disgrace. Getting from the fan park to the stadium in great heat, with no access to water, on a bus for 3 hours. Someone could have been seriously hurt. Get to the stadium to find they have stopped selling anything, including water. Adds to that danger. And many brought nothing as they knew they couldnt bring it into the stadium. And then leaving was even worse. We all were basically left to fend for ourselves. I had my young daughter with me. No one had any idea what was going on but I knew I couldn't walk it with her through fields or into streets i didnt know. We ended up running to catch a last shuttle to the airport and then got a taxi back into town from there. But if we hadn't, who knows how that could have ended. Iv never seen anything like that before....and iv been to Anfield!!!
It was worse than a nightmare.
 
Part of our journey to Istambul was on a bus trip of over 300 mile from Sofia.
The 17 mile or so from Yenikapi to the stadium felt as though it was longer, as did getting out of that carpark after the match.
It must have been a nightmare for people with health and mobility issues.
Total Disgrace!
 
In hindsight I should have risked it and gone back with the Inter fans on the Metro. Quite a few City fans did and there were no problems.
 
It makes you think that the whole: shuttle bus rather than Metro, lack of organisation, water confiscated at gates, lack of kiosks, inflatables confiscated, flags confiscated etc. was all on purpose to dilute our end of the stadium of atmosphere and colour.
Probably more likely they just fucking hate us and this was their punishment. It’s not a coincidence for me!
 
As you might have seen, I am trying to pull together something comprehensive to take the club/wherever is appropriate. Really appreciate everyone that has sent through their experiences so far.

In regard to your second question, the club did have representatives out in Istanbul before the final on a number of occasions as part of the engagement that UEFA undertake with all clubs that are in the latter stages of the competition. They raised a number of issues, such as the fan park and travel, but ultimately had to trust that UEFA and the local organising committee would rectify them.

I have asked why they haven’t raised it more publicly. In any case, part of the exercise I am undertaking will hopefully mean that they cannot ignore the plight of our supporters last weekend.
You know what pal, I am very proud to be a City fan but I am not proud of the way the club goes about its business administratively. The sucking up to liverpool is a fucking disgrace. The issuing of cup final tickets to supporters clubs members getting priority over cup scheme members and season ticket holders, the acceptance of all the libellous shit that the press throws at us, and now uefa being allowed to treat us like absolute shit. Our fans are the heart of this club and the club are fucking negligent in their operations and safeguarding duties. On the other hand you seem like a really decent bloke, thanks for caring, perhaps ask Danny Wilson why he doesn’t give more of a shit?
 
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In hindsight I should have risked it and gone back with the Inter fans on the Metro. Quite a few City fans did and there were no problems.
We went for the shuttle at Yenikapi before the game. Was warned by a mate coming the other way not to bother so jumped back on the metro and made our way to the ground. It was busy but as many city fans as inter Milan fans on it. A few locals who could speak English were very helpful telling us where we had to change and onto which line

Went for the shuttle after the game but after an hour or so milling around it became obvious it was a hopeless case so walked all the way back to the metro and made our way back to the city centre. Pretty quiet by then and mainly city fans and Turks who’d clearly been working at the match as they were badged up and wearing cl uniform

Was back in the city centre for about 3:30 and on the piss on Nevizade street until 6:30
 
Dear UEFA Champions League Final Planning Committee,

After experiencing, first hand, your ‘fan experience’ in Istanbul, I would like to offer you my services free of charge, for the next final. I would coordinate everything for you, based on my observations and experience in Istanbul.

Shuttle bus transport to the Manchester City Fan Zone at the Ataturk Stadium;

  • I would suggest that you have clear signage identifying where people go to enter the fan zone and where people should wait in line for a shuttle bus.
  • If possible, as much of the line should be provided with shade as temperatures will get high and the wait/line will become long in the afternoon.
  • The wait line for the shuttle buses should be segregated from those people wanting to enter the fan zone. This will avoid people walking to the front of the line because they didn’t know what the line was for (see above point regarding signage). Also, this would stop those fans deciding a line was not for them and simply walking straight to the front of the line.
  • Establish UEFA representatives to provide guidance, instruction and where necessary enforcement of acceptable rules in regard the line for the shuttle buses.
  • At no time should anyone waiting in line, or entering a bus, be forced to give up their water. Hydration is an essential component of good health and the wait in line, in the sun, and the journey to the stadium may total more than 4 hours.
  • Bottles of water should be made available to those inline, free of charge. This should only be made available to pass holders and the 20cent cost of the water should be absorbed within the cost of the match ticket, just as the transport cost is.
  • Establish a disability assistance tent. Pre-registered guests should announce themselves at the tent where they can wait until they can be assisted on to a bus that is departing. There should be no requirement for those with a valid disability to wait in line.
  • Establish a loading area that does not require fans to move and be aware of busses turning. There is sufficient space at Yenikapi for all bus maneuvering to be done away from the fans, and a single stream of buses travels in a single direction, only stopping to pickup fans.
  • Place a UEFA representative at the end of the controlled line of fans. Provide them with a clicker counter. The representative will only let the specific number of people through that can be accommodated comfortably and safely on the bus provided. When the bus is loaded, it moves away, the next bus takes it place, comes to a safe stop and the next load of fans are allowed through and to board that bus.
  • Where possible major roads should be closed to normal traffic and diverted avoiding the route taken by the buses to the ground. You will be moving as many as 15,000 fans on buses carrying +/- 50 fans each. This will require approx.. 300 buses that should be provided priority over local traffic to ensure the journey time is not unreasonable.
  • When dropping fans at fan zone near the ground, please prepare and distribute a simple flyer that contains instructions in regard what the process will be for boarding busses on the return journey. Also have large oversized display boards easily visible, with the same instructions, for those who are not provided with the flyer.
  • The drop off area should be staffed with English speakers to assist fans with questions and also those with disabilities requiring assistance. Please note : in order to safely and efficiently assist those with disabilities please ensure there is level solid service from the bus drop off area to the gate entrance to the stadium.
Whilst I could provide a further set of suggestions for the fan zone experience, I will withhold these until you accept my offer of help.

I will provide you with some bullet points for hosting ‘regular’ (non-hospitality) fans once they are admitted inside the stadium. These are obvious issues that don’t really require any great insight on my behalf. Not ensuring these minimums would surely fall into the dereliction of duty category;

  • Provide sufficient vending locations that the average wait time is not greater than 30 minutes.
  • Provide sufficient bathroom facilities that the average wait time is not greater than 15 minutes.
  • Ensure there is easily available, reasonably priced water, without waiting in line for greater than 30 minutes. Water should be available via any/all payment methods. As mentioned above, good hydration is essential and should not be at risk because a contact less card is failing to process.
Shuttle bus transport back to the city and to the airports; Perhaps this area is the one with the biggest potential for failure if nobody takes responsibility for putting in place an effective plan. However, the basics of the plan are very simple, and most fall into a category I refer to as ‘common sense’.

  • As soon as fans leave the stadium, start to segregate (with barriers that have been put in place during the game) fans for a) the city, b) IST airport & c) SAW airport. There is a long distance from exiting the stadium gate until the busses, so there is plenty of time for people to get in their correct lane.
  • The narrowest point in the journey to the buses is at the rear of the fan zone, this should be used as the control point for letting a ‘reasonable’ amount of people through who have a bus immediately available to board.
  • At the bus park, no private vehicles or taxis are allowed. Those are handled at a separate area. There is plenty of space around the ground to accomplish this.
  • As with the departure procedure, all buses should already be lined up, in one of three lines. There should be no jostling for positions, no merging of traffic, just load up, move off, repeat !
  • At the exit of the bus park, the road must be closed to all other traffic up to the point where the bus joins the highway/motorway to its destination. Also, all 3 bus lines must exit directly to the road, bus lanes should not be required to merge. If this is implemented correctly, there will be no delays caused by congestion in the bus park area. When a bus is loaded it can be on the road in less than a few minutes. Roads will be quiet at that time of night so journey time will be short, our challenge is to get the bus started on that journey as quickly and as efficiently as possible.
This is just a short sample of the planning I can help you execute. I hope my ‘short’ list of suggestions will show you that I am the ideal consultant for your next CL Final Planning committee.

If you did have anyone who was supposed to have taken care of this, I suggest you get your sponsor Heineken to employ them, as they obviously couldn’t arrange a piss up in a brewery !
just makes you think why do the host city and UEFA not request for volunteers just like they do with the Olympics
 
i have so much to write about those issues. i am writing, and erasing immediately. dont wanna get into trouble. issues will be mostly political (police, government stuff, shitty stadium etc.)

younger-middle aged fans; you had a great experience about a 3rd world country. take it that way. but i still apologize for the problems you experienced.

but, i am really
so sorry and sad about elderly and disabled fans....i send my deepest apologies for my country. actually i forgot to think about that issue (disabled and old fans) when i started to write you. wish that issue came to my mind, maybe i could have done better. i could easely arrange some busses for them; but could not think that uefa shuttles will be that shitty. anyway, everthing has been passed. nothing i/we can do. actually i wanted to write those issues to municipality, but i am sure they will not care. anyway really sorry.

i was expecting a chaos after game. dont wanted to scare you much, as some of you know, i stopped writing negative issues about istanbul after a while.... anyway, again, it has been passed, nothing again i/we can do.

why am i writing this? dont know. just sad about the disabled fans and elderly esp. again sorry guys. so sorry. i hope you are safe and calm now.

you have experienced at least some of the stuff we are dealing with in this country...

keep in touch next time, for the ones who will come to visit again. everthing will be better. i will involve more. and 100% wear my scaremonger mask; will not care about any criticism about my pessimism.

see you later.
Not your fault mate. You've done more than enough for us that have never been to Istanbul and your advice has been extremely helpful.
 
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Travel to and from ground was an absolute disgrace, we left on shuttle bus 8 hours before match and it took almost 3 hours to get to ground.

After the match there was zero organisation for the buses, it was incredibly unsafe with supporters forced to scramble through cars, buses and it was lucky there weren’t any fatalities.

It took almost 2 hours to exit the car park.
 

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