It’s finally online-the Peter Swales video we’ve been waiting for P31

kismet said:
Thank you @petrusha for your kind words and yes I post what I hear, not for sensationalism or clicks but to pass on anything I hear to fellow City fans. What this person told me this weekend totally stacks up. The role that this person had in the Swales shops at the time totally stacks up as do the sequence of events. Am doing an article for Noels fanzine (Helmet rides again) on Swales and I put the word out I was looking for any information. Then this person contacts me with their story. Why would they decide to do that. I believe them, I really do. My thoughts -

- over the years I've always had my doubts he was ever a City fan for the damage he did
- City fans who I respect totally due to their extensive research, @Prestwich_Blue and @Gary James have had doubts about whether he was a City fan
- Geoff Durbin who tells the tale of when staff were told to put all historical documents/momentos about City in a skip is unbelievable. Geoff thankfully rescued many of the items
- Paul Lakes wife who is absolutely scathing about Swales and what he did to Paul. What City fan would do that.
- other ex players and staff members who do not paint a very good picture of life under Swales
- Swales has never mentioned about his younger years and going to watch/support City
- he was never displayed any real emotion about City, it was all about him as you say above Petrusha

I get the impression that he wasn't really interested at all in football, he was more concerned with making money and City became an avenue. The fact that he took the piss out of his City employees on a Monday when City had lost does not necessarily make him a United fan. The fact that he made favourable references to United again does not necessarily make him a red, it may have been part of his wind up process on the City fans.
He worked Saturdays in his shop so didn't go to any club on a regular basis.

I believe what this person has told me, he was not a City fan. Was he a United fan........I'm not sure.

All I know is that he was first and foremost a Peter Swales fan who did untold damage to our club. He effectively used our club for his own ends.
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I did ask him when I interviewed him about his support and how it started. He came from Ardwick and claimed he was often forced to hear Utd fans going on and on at school. He said he was picked on for being a Blue at his school.

Obviously, it’s difficult to prove one thing or another. I think we’d like to see evidence of people at games and soon. I know some doubted Bernstein was a Blue for example. I’ve also done in-depth interviews with former directors who have pointed the finger at others on the board claiming they weren’t Blues. For example, Eric Alexander was absolutely adamant that Sidney Rose had been desperate to join the board at Utd before he joined City’s board (due to Busby connection). Obviously, it’s opinions not fact.
 
Gingers Dad said:
I don't know the structure of the club and how it was run but Swales put himself out there in front of the media. Never known a chairman since who was interviewed as much as he was. So if he gets more than his fair share of the blame then as far as I'm concerned he brought it on himself
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It was said of Swales, by Tommy Docherty I believe, that he carried a card round his neck stating "in case of heart attack, call a press conference". I think that summed up Swales pretty well...
 
ancoats said:
Some of the things that happened makes you wonder was Swales taking the piss
but I will say he went all in with Malcolm Allison 2nd stint at the club and spent all the money on an idea that even the blind would see a mile off was doomed to fail

looking back now, Manchester city would have had a great chance of catching or competing over the next 5 years in chasing Liverpool if they stuck with Tony Book's team, we were close in terms of fighting on a level playing field and won silverware, OK it was the league cup but what a base to work from with the youth we had


Gary James

I think there is a good book about how close was Tony Book becoming a great manager, even becoming an England manager of the future
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Just wondering, when did Allison's return take place ? I thought it was the summer of 1979. Book's team had finished 2nd 76-77, then 4th in 77-78 but slumped to 15th at the end of the 78-79 season so it seems that all was not going well and the team needed investment and an upgrade in terms of players - which is not to say Book would not have turned the ship around if left to do it by himself and with sufficient backing.
Instead of leaving Book to put things right, Allison was invited back and things quickly went from disappointing to catastrophic.
 
Vienna_70 said:
I remember Swales saying that he wanted to do 20 years as chairman. That’s says all you need to know; it was all about Peter fucking Swales.

It was under Frannie's chairmanship that we started the ball rolling for the move to the Commonwealth Games stadium.

FHL might have got a lot of things wrong during his time in charge, but for that alone, we should be eternally grateful.
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I thought it was Bernstein who did the deal on the Commonwealth Games stadium?
 
There can’t be anyone in our history who has done us more damage than Swales did. Mind you had Frannie stated for 20 years he’d have had a fucking good go
 
BringBackSwales said:
There can’t be anyone in our history who has done us more damage than Swales did. Mind you had Frannie stated for 20 years he’d have had a fucking good go
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The difference between Peter fucking Swales and Frannie was that Lee left, when he was no longer welcome, whereas PJS clung on, desperately trying to fight against the inevitable.
 
stan bowles said:
Just wondering, when did Allison's return take place ? I thought it was the summer of 1979. Book's team had finished 2nd 76-77, then 4th in 77-78 but slumped to 15th at the end of the 78-79 season so it seems that all was not going well and the team needed investment and an upgrade in terms of players - which is not to say Book would not have turned the ship around if left to do it by himself and with sufficient backing.
Instead of leaving Book to put things right, Allison was invited back and things quickly went from disappointing to catastrophic.
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I think Tony book team just needed investing with a couple of new players by 1979, but the club didn't fancy giving book the money and thought Malcolm Allison would be a better judge on new players, so city asked book to step down to be first team coach and Malcolm Allison manager

for city and Swales, the worst ever move they ever did, and Joe mercer was right about Malcolm ? As a manager, NO too flamboyant yes a world-class coach but never a manager
 
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